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Microsoft will bid farewell to Internet Explorer and legacy Edge in 2021
The Verge ^ | Aug 17, 2020 | Tom Warren

Posted on 08/18/2020 9:22:59 AM PDT by dayglored

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To: dayglored

“Microsoft will bid farewell to Internet Explorer and legacy Edge in 2021”

will anyone even notice?


21 posted on 08/18/2020 10:06:21 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: dayglored

When can we bid farewell to Bill Gates?


22 posted on 08/18/2020 10:07:30 AM PDT by maggief
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To: dayglored

Chrome if you just want to have your privacy sold a million times. Microsoft if you want every virus to infect your computer. Try FireFox or several other browsers to browse in relative privacy.


23 posted on 08/18/2020 10:21:05 AM PDT by poinq
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To: dayglored
I use IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Pale Moon, and Brave. I have to have that many browsers because none of them work on every situation. Anytime I watch video's I have to use Chrome or Firefox. The weather report won't work on anything but Brave and Chrome. Opera is for using a VPN. IE still is best for certain websites I download from for my Bible studies. Each one has it's strengths and weaknesses, mostly weaknesses. If I was limited to one browser, I would be giving up 60% of my browsing. I've re installed Windows thinking a certain file might be corrupted. I've checked for viruses with AVG, Malwarebytes, and Defender.

The web is crashing for me and becoming more useless. It's tougher every day just to do what some people claim is elementary. There is so much trash, cookies, ads, temporary files, ect, I can't do the things I set out to do because my internet speed is so slow now. I can click on a link and have to wait 10-15 seconds for the little circle to start moving. Sometimes I can be finished reading the article before the ads quit downloading, and other times the circle just stops and freezes the page. Then the browser says (Not Responding). Are others having these problems? Am I the only one? It seems like the dream of surfing the net like in commercials doesn't meet the reality. I know the next response will be Get Linux or a Mac, but I'll never buy a Mac and the learning curve for linux is beyond a 69yo that started with a 286 in 1984 on Dos 3.11. How tough can it be to build a computer that and surf the net without freezing? I've installed Linux on several computers ( maybe 30 times since Ubuntu 5). My last installation was Mint 17 a few months ago. I have a Raspberry Pi 3 B+ right now that is nothing more than a doc reader for my Sunday school lessons, But I have yet to get it networked and can't even get Firefox updated. I have 3 monitors I can't use with Linux. Editing video,...don't know how in Linux. The list is quite impressive on what I can't do with Linux. I refuse to buy a Mac and their OS is basically Linux anyway.

The best I ever did was with XP and later with Windows 7, but they are gone. I even reinstalled Windows 7 and had sites say they wouldn't load because of the browser and there is no alternate browser that will patch 7 to work the new websites.

I hate Windows 10, but that's where we are now.

If I was a coder, I would backward re engineer Windows 7 or XP to have the latest Win 10 kernel that would work with modern drivers and software and the install would be checking boxes for the minimum items you personally want. There's no need for Bloatware and things like Solitaire and others, unless you personally want them. There are many things you must install and can't uninstall to make the size smaller. I've seen a ripped XP install that took about 300 megs total to install and was blazing fast. A rip of Windows 10 with a better looking GUI, IMO would be popular, but I haven't seen one yet.

24 posted on 08/18/2020 10:39:58 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: BenLurkin

Chromium Edge is much superior to IE and Edge.

And is much less of a memory hog than Chrome.


25 posted on 08/18/2020 10:47:45 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: chuckles
I feel your pain.

For reasons of both my dayjob (IT at a software company) and personal needs, I have one of everything and multiple of some: Windows, Mac, and Linux. They're all running, all the time, because (as you pointed out) some things run better (or at all) on some systems but not others.

Switching between them has become second-nature, even the Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V on Windows/Linux vs. Cmd-C/Cmd-V on the Mac. The good news is that Copy/Paste works seamlessly between them all, because my hardware is Mac, with a VMware VM of Linux, and Remote Desktop to my Win10 machine at the office. So all three OSes are running on one piece of hardware.

I love it. But at the same time, I hate it -- why the heck can't it be simpler?

I'm 68, and have been working with computers since the early 70's (see my FR profile for details if you're interested).

In some ways, it was much simpler way back then.

26 posted on 08/18/2020 10:51:38 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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IE has one “feature” that I routinely use: “send shortcut to desktop.”

I hooked up with CCleaner Browser a few months ago, and use it for all Browsing, except as above.

If I knew how to port everything over to a Linux operating system, I’d do it. I am IT challenged in this regard, however and really not confident I could do it successfully.


27 posted on 08/18/2020 12:42:46 PM PDT by Taxman (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AGAIN!)
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To: dayglored
Hey there Chuckles....

Like you, I’ve been using computers since the 1970s as well. My usage was different than your IT background. I was a user person with engineering and science kinds of applications. Let’s give a big shout out for FORTRAN! LOL!

I don’t know if many now appreciate what it was like back in this time in that there were few examples of commercial software available and you had to write your own programs starting with a blank sheet of paper, a pencil and eraser. What programs there were were very expensive. Real real expensive!

Mainframe in college. Switched entirely to handheld HP and TI scientific calculators for the 1st year out of college. Our analytical lab upgraded to a stronger HP desktop late 79 so we grabbed their obsolete HP 9825. The cost of the computer was $10k and for that you got a computer about the size of a typewriter that had a built in keyboard, 64k of memory, a 20 character led display, a cassette tape reader, and a thermal printer using a roll of calculator paper.

Myself and another guy wrote programs to automate calculations for data coming out of our pilot plants. We kept layering on more work to the computer and the bosses kept giving us more $$$. After a year or so, we had $20k invested in that hardware setup via an x-y plotter, 5 1/2 floppy drive (size of a typewriter) and external thermal printer (Size of a typewriter). Our software capability had grown exponentially and gone past individual pilot plant customs to focus on handling generic data and running it through a battery of statistics and plotting results.

Along the line, our corporate IT folks heard about what we were doing and told us we needed to move onto a mainframe. Keep in mind that this was the days of the VT-100 terminal. Corporate had a new and horribly expensive scientific software on the mainframe. We gave it a tryout and said no way, it’s a dog. Well, that caused a bureaucratic ruckus. It ended up that we challenged the mainframe to a trial. A corporate guru sat at a VT-100 and our HP-9825 was at the adjacent desk. We had to enter a data set then run a battery of statistics. At the HP keyboard, I typed in about 50 data sets, ran statistics, printed all the results and had several X-Y plots out before the data had even been typed into the mainframe via VT-100. Eye opening moment. A couple of months later, I was the first person in the corporation with the original IBM-PC. A short time after that, desktop computers were standard equipment corporate wide. Within 2 years or so, the company had several thousand PCs.

A funny thing that trickled down from all this is that I got tagged into a small group of folks that were software testers. My personal contribution was being impatient with BS and so my opinions were valued in the sense that if I could and would use a software, any damn fool could. Hehehe...

28 posted on 08/18/2020 1:15:50 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: dayglored

I shy away from anything Gargoyle (because it is evil) so I guess I’ll say bye-bye to all MS browsers.

I can live with that ;’}


29 posted on 08/18/2020 2:10:28 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: doorgunner69
Always avoided IE use. Had it for the infrequent times Firefox did not like some website, but that has gone away.

Same here. When I went to Windows 10 I had to do away with the old series Firefox and do research to put tabs on bottom where they belong (Firefox default is tabs on top, you have to use a script to get them below). After working with add-ons I found those which mostly mimic what old Firefox did and looked like. However, with each new update, I shudder that some techie thinks he/she has a better way to do things. But for now I'm happy with the way it looks and functions.

30 posted on 08/18/2020 2:35:25 PM PDT by CedarDave (Celebrating 20 years as a Free Republic member and now a dollar-a-day supporter)
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To: dayglored

I use a variety of Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Brave, and if forced “IE Tab+” on Chrome or Firefox.


31 posted on 08/18/2020 3:17:50 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: datura

I can’t stand the Mac OS. It literally makes no logical sense.

I’m either on *nix, or Windows. Heck, I’d rather run Novell than Mac OS.

But, that’s why there’s so many different browsers, OS’es, etc. - everyone can pick the one they want, and customize it to their hearts content.


32 posted on 08/18/2020 3:22:18 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: chuckles

I’m learning video editing on a Ubuntu machine. The app is kdenlive and it seems (so far) to be decently feature-rich, plus it allows direct editing of NTSC (DVD) video. Most of the editors I auditioned for Windoze required a media type conversion for VOB format, which required yet another app (and another $79.99).

PS: kdenlive also has an installer for Windoze.


33 posted on 08/18/2020 4:33:47 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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34 posted on 08/18/2020 6:34:39 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Become a monthly donor and stamp out FReepathons.)
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To: chuckles

I am there with you. My very first machine was a 486 33 desktop. I opened the case, lifted the bar and swapped in a 66 chip.I was hooked! My last two builds were Win10 about five years ago. One is for online and the other is only for gaming. I like Firefox, AVG and Zonealarm but each has expanded into an all in one supposed program with endless nagging to upgrade for a nominal fee. I would love a go at learning Linux but after sixty plus years my brain is full.


35 posted on 08/19/2020 5:23:50 AM PDT by Robocop5626
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To: datura

“Once you go Mac you never go back.”

You running Kamala 20 OS?


36 posted on 08/19/2020 12:54:41 PM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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