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To: dangus

Sorry but your post has several errors and misconceptions. Most hydrogen on earth indeed consists of a single proton and a single electron, not two. Two electrons would make hydrogen atoms negatively charged rather than neutral.

You are also confounding three different concepts: elemental hydrogen, atomic hydrogen, and molecular hydrogen. Most hydrogen on earth is atomic hydrogen, namely the hydrogen bound to other elements. The primary other element on earth is oxygen, and mostly atomic hydrogen on earth is found in water. Some also is bound to carbon or nitrogen, forming ammonia or hydrocarbons.

Hydrogen also binds to itself, forming hydrogen gas. This is molecular hydrogen, which is fairly uncommon on earth since it has molecular speed distributions with most molecules moving faster than escape velocity. Atomic hydrogen is one proton plus one electron, molecular hydrogen is two such atoms bound together.

This article is referring to the elemental hydrogen. This type of hydrogen is the most common component of the current universe. It was also the form of hydrogen synthesized in the Big Bang. This hydrogen consists of a single proton and a single electron, but they are not bound together. The technical term is plasma.

This article is referring primarily to nuclear origins anyway. A hydrogen nucleus IS a proton. If protons were formed in the Big Bang, so were hydrogen nuclei; they are one and the same. BTW, I’m not sure why you were referring to photons; those are light particles and have nothing to do with hydrogen.


35 posted on 08/15/2020 9:04:56 AM PDT by stremba
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To: stremba

>> Sorry but your post has several errors and misconceptions. Most hydrogen on earth indeed consists of a single proton and a single electron, not two. Two electrons would make hydrogen atoms negatively charged rather than neutral. <<

Hence, I said that two hydrogen atoms share the two electrons, making them neutral. Monoatomic hydrogen does NOT exist on Earth. Where pure hydrogen does exist, it is H2.

>> You are also confounding three different concepts: elemental hydrogen, atomic hydrogen, and molecular hydrogen. Most hydrogen on earth is atomic hydrogen, namely the hydrogen bound to other elements. <<

Yes, and in that case it doesn’t have ANY protons of its own, and instead tends to lose its electrons to the larger molecule, becoming the highly polarized positive end.

>> The primary other element on earth is oxygen, and mostly atomic hydrogen on earth is found in water. Some also is bound to carbon or nitrogen, forming ammonia or hydrocarbons. <<

Yes yes yes,... dur!

>> This article is referring to the elemental hydrogen. This type of hydrogen is the most common component of the current universe. It was also the form of hydrogen synthesized in the Big Bang. This hydrogen consists of a single proton and a single electron, but they are not bound together. The technical term is plasma. <<

Yes, in other words, it’s refering to naked protons as “Hydrogen.” If you didn’t leap to talk down to someone, you’d’ve discovered that the entire point of my post is that it’s technically accurate but kinda stupid to refer to naked protons as Hydrogen when you’re claiming that Hydrogen was formed in the Big Bang. Protons were formed in the big bang. They did not behave in any earthly way that we would associate with Hydrogen, inasmuch as they were plasma.


48 posted on 08/15/2020 10:58:59 AM PDT by dangus
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