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To: stremba

>> Sorry but your post has several errors and misconceptions. Most hydrogen on earth indeed consists of a single proton and a single electron, not two. Two electrons would make hydrogen atoms negatively charged rather than neutral. <<

Hence, I said that two hydrogen atoms share the two electrons, making them neutral. Monoatomic hydrogen does NOT exist on Earth. Where pure hydrogen does exist, it is H2.

>> You are also confounding three different concepts: elemental hydrogen, atomic hydrogen, and molecular hydrogen. Most hydrogen on earth is atomic hydrogen, namely the hydrogen bound to other elements. <<

Yes, and in that case it doesn’t have ANY protons of its own, and instead tends to lose its electrons to the larger molecule, becoming the highly polarized positive end.

>> The primary other element on earth is oxygen, and mostly atomic hydrogen on earth is found in water. Some also is bound to carbon or nitrogen, forming ammonia or hydrocarbons. <<

Yes yes yes,... dur!

>> This article is referring to the elemental hydrogen. This type of hydrogen is the most common component of the current universe. It was also the form of hydrogen synthesized in the Big Bang. This hydrogen consists of a single proton and a single electron, but they are not bound together. The technical term is plasma. <<

Yes, in other words, it’s refering to naked protons as “Hydrogen.” If you didn’t leap to talk down to someone, you’d’ve discovered that the entire point of my post is that it’s technically accurate but kinda stupid to refer to naked protons as Hydrogen when you’re claiming that Hydrogen was formed in the Big Bang. Protons were formed in the big bang. They did not behave in any earthly way that we would associate with Hydrogen, inasmuch as they were plasma.


48 posted on 08/15/2020 10:58:59 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

>>>> Yes, and in that case it doesn’t have ANY protons of its own, <<<<

Obviously, I meant it doesn’t have ANY electrons of its own.


49 posted on 08/15/2020 10:59:58 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

My understanding is that in a plasma state inside stars, protons (1-Hydrogen) collide to form diprotons (2-Helium), which in tiny, tiny fractions of a microsecond decay back to protons. If someone wants to label naked, plasma protons “Hydrogen” in spite of their lack of Hydrogen chemistry, that’s fine. But if those a significant portion of those protons have formed diprotons and decayed again, it’s false to say that were “created in the big bang” to any extent other than that all matter is a product of the big bang.

Actually, it took an incredible period of time — up to 20 minutes — before baryons started to form. I might suggest that any even after cosmic inflation is no longer part of the “bang.”


50 posted on 08/15/2020 11:18:41 AM PDT by dangus
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