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1 posted on 08/11/2020 9:18:17 PM PDT by terart
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Everyone is right to treat this as a medical emergency.

If it is COVID, the patient should be treated within 5 days of the first symptoms. The very successful Zelenko protocol is as follows:

Zinc is the main anti-viral. However, to deliver the zinc into the cells where the virus is, you must take hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine is a "zinc ionophore." If hydroxychloroquine is not available, then quercetin can be used 500mg twice per day.
33 posted on 08/11/2020 9:46:02 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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Ask doc for nebulizer and vials of Budesonide stat asap and maybe albuterol and try keep her at home. Maybe injection steroid also.


34 posted on 08/11/2020 9:46:41 PM PDT by amihow
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Your Oxygen Level can go down for a lot of reasons, try panic attack and hyperventilating.

Emergency Room will diagnose her, put her on oxygen.

Ultimately, they may just counsel her on her breathing.


36 posted on 08/11/2020 9:49:28 PM PDT by dila813
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Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin D3, Vitamin K2, Beta Glucan, L Ascorbic Acid or Sodium Ascorbate, Activated Quercetin, Melatonin, Proteolytic Enzymes, Magnesium Glycinate.

Dosage...depends on body size.


38 posted on 08/11/2020 9:49:51 PM PDT by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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Once you get in touch with them, if she is not already in the hospital, have her go to one that is trusted. If the hospital wants to send her home as they sometimes do, don’t let them discharge her until her oxegen levels are normal for a couple days.

I have no idea if this is good advice. I only know that if my friend had not been discharged, he would be in a whole lot better shape than he is now in ICU and unable to talk. A second friend that was sent home was also rushed back in critical condition.


40 posted on 08/11/2020 9:52:38 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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EVMS COVID Management Protocol:
In symptomatic patients, monitoring with home pulse oximetry is recommended. Baseline or ambulatory desaturation < 94% should prompt hospital admission.
I would get her to the hospital with that rapid and unexplained SpO2 drop! That is a very concerning low saturation number. Any other symptoms?
41 posted on 08/11/2020 9:54:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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She needs to go to ER.
When mine went that low I had a pulmonary embolism.


42 posted on 08/11/2020 9:55:21 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing)
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If she has COVID, she might be entering the early pulmonary phase and prompt treatment is required. Better to be safe than sorry. Get her to a doctor or ER. Also, read the entire EVMS COVID Management Protocol document.


43 posted on 08/11/2020 10:00:48 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Do you know what she is using to test her SpO2? If she is using a cell phone w/ app, many of those are very inaccurate. I wouldn’t trust a non-medical device reading if my health is of concern. I would double check with a clinic, though, just to be sure. If she was at 89, she’d be feeling winded probably.
The first time I got my new phone and it told me I had an 86 O2, I was like whaaat? The heartbeat sensor works good, though.


44 posted on 08/11/2020 10:01:00 PM PDT by Aiden
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A normal pulse ox is 98 to 100 consistently below 95 is moderately unhealthy. below 90 is dangerous and she should go the the ER or hospital she needs o2 and perhaps a nebulizer


45 posted on 08/11/2020 10:08:58 PM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzz.kill for short......)
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Agreed, 89 is not good news, it could be indicative of a sort of cardio-pulmonary issue, but that oximeter may be going bad or is defective in some way. Was she taking the readings at home, or was she being monitored by a medical profesional? Never assume a reading is due to a home medical device being the culprit, but you can be safe by suspecting it is when you follow up on it. I've got about a dozen glucose meters around the house, and I'll guarantee you that eleven of them aren't calibrated right. They're good for ballpark figures if I'm feeling woozy.
46 posted on 08/11/2020 10:14:19 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If a really stupid person becomes senile......how can you tell?" - George Carlin)
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She needs to ask for a nebulizer treatment with Symbicort or some inhalant with prednosone or dexamethasone.


48 posted on 08/11/2020 10:18:04 PM PDT by tiki (Obamagate)
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SpO2 readings on pulse oximeter can jump around a lot and it can be hard to get a good average reading. You have “eyeball” the reading to get an average. Unlike a hospital pulse oximeter, my home devices don’t do any averaging.

Be sure to let the probe stabilize after a period of time — don’t use the initial reading.

Home pulse oximeters are subject to false readings caused by motion. Be sure to keep the hand and fingers completely still while reading.

Consider getting a recording pulse oximeter which will record your data at one second intervals. I use one for my sleep apnea. You can get excellent data during sleep and observe trends. You get almost 29,000 readings during 8 hours of sleep. My “O2Ring” provides summary stats for your sleep period. Here is one sample mobile app sleep report (not my data shown here — this is a bad report!).


49 posted on 08/11/2020 10:24:21 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Anxiety can cause reading.


50 posted on 08/11/2020 10:25:27 PM PDT by willk (A bias news media is not a free press.)
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the variation on an oximeter from 94 to 89 is nothing to worry about, mine prior to Covid would often vary that much and more depending on time of day and prior activity has a lot to do with it-if it was going down from say 94 to 69 then I would be concerned but you are talking 5% and that is within the error rate of most of the cheap oximeters out there. Know this that 95% of people who think they have Covid do not as evidenced by testing


51 posted on 08/11/2020 10:25:50 PM PDT by JBourne
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Below 90 is a danger sign, go to the ER. She needs more tests and an x ray.

Unless of course if you live in Denver or Albuquerque, where 90 is low normal.

Does she have asthma? She might need prednisone etc. Lots of viruses out there, not to mention bacterial pneumonia.


52 posted on 08/11/2020 10:28:16 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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Without more information...

Age, other issues, etc. it is impossible to get good advice. Except...if her readings are that low over multiple readings it sounds like it will be worth getting checked out.

What can YOU do? Not much. I am assuming she is an adult. They are probably dealing with it—which is why they aren’t answering. Say a prayer, send them a text, and go to bad.


55 posted on 08/11/2020 10:33:36 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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You have given our information that cannot be interpreted nor understood without a proper history and physical examination. Further there are many people now giving you medical advice without the benefit of medical training.

Here is the best advice. Of your daughter is feeling ill she needs to be seen immediately the pulse ox could be spuriously low or high. There is no reason to ask people who you do not know what to do for medical advice. Including me.

However as a board certified physician there is only one safe answer. Immediate evaluation.

There is an awful lot of misinformation on this thread both on CoVId and other issues. So please advise your daughter to seek medical attention if feeling ill. It really is just that simple.


56 posted on 08/11/2020 10:46:04 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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Anything below 90 is an emergency. Respond accordingly


59 posted on 08/12/2020 12:55:01 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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A visit to a *large* hospital’s ER might be worthwhile.


65 posted on 08/12/2020 4:29:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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