Posted on 08/11/2020 3:38:26 AM PDT by impimp
My son is a D3 coach. They are playing in the spring.
Correlation does not equal causation but mr “maths” cannot grasp that fact
Insults.
Gaslights.
Projection.
Repeats same material over and over.
Ignores other’s material.
There is a word for that, but you can’t call FRiends what they are.
Yep, he’s a “bona-fide ASS”.
Israel is again locking down now.
Thailand and Vietnam are “small countries”?
Besides your little “correlation does not equal causation” would be cute except for the fact that the “masks reduce the spread” is true across countries, across the globe.
Actually, that number was being pimped by some bureaucrat this past weekend.
Of course, echoed by the media.
Fear porn.
I didn’t pat attention to the source.
Model Shows 300,000 American Deaths by December if More Don’t Wear Face Masks
Aug. 7, 2020
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-08-07/model-shows-300-000-american-deaths-by-december-if-more-dont-wear-face-masks
The Scare ‘Roid who relied on the WHO Ghoul?
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3850959/posts?page=11#11
Or the WHO Ghoul?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3838403/posts?page=112#112
:: masks reduce the spread ::
At the same rate as herd immunity.
Of the “new” COVID positives since June 1, how many have been hospitalized compared to the peak months of March/April?
How many positives simply recovered with flu-like symptoms?
How many of the hospitalized received intensive care/ventilators?
Of the NEW positives, how many died?
How many of the positives prior to June 1 died in the June/July time period?
Can someone who has fought the virus and recovered actually spread the virus?
Herd immunity is equally effective as wearing a mask.
I see plenty of countries out there where masks are NOT universal.
Watching Australian Rules Football with light, socially distanced crowds. Nobody is wearing a mask.
Watching school kids returning to class in Denmark, no one is wearing a mask.
Where you see a lot of masks typically is in Asia where you always have. Probably due to air pollution as much as anything.
Masks do not reduce the spread of COVID, because the virus is too small.
We have had a mandatory mask order in my state since June 26. The number of COVID cases has been trending upwards. Wearing masks has had zero effect on the trend line.
Halfway down they have "State Level Stats" with a "View" box to the right. Click on that and you get data for that state.
One of the Frontline Doctors who held that press conference put it best.
Wearing a cloth mask to stop COVID is like throwing a handful of sand at a chain link fence. Will it stop some of it? Yeah. But not enough to really do you any good.
Visualizing Speech-Generated Oral Fluid Droplets with Laser Light ScatteringRespiratory virus shedding in exhaled breath and efficacy of face masks
Aerosols and droplets generated during speech have been implicated in the person-to-person transmission of viruses,1,2 and there is current interest in understanding the mechanisms responsible for the spread of Covid-19 by these means. The act of speaking generates oral fluid droplets that vary widely in size,1 and these droplets can harbor infectious virus particles. Whereas large droplets fall quickly to the ground, small droplets can dehydrate and linger as “droplet nuclei” in the air, where they behave like an aerosol and thereby expand the spatial extent of emitted infectious particles.2 We report the results of a laser light-scattering experiment in which speech-generated droplets and their trajectories were visualized.
abstractA cloth mask is intended to trap droplets that are released when the wearer talks, coughs or sneezes. Asking everyone to wear cloth masks can help reduce the spread of the virus by people who have COVID-19 but don't realize it.
We identified seasonal human coronaviruses, influenza viruses and rhinoviruses in exhaled breath and coughs of children and adults with acute respiratory illness. Surgical face masks significantly reduced detection of influenza virus RNA in respiratory droplets and coronavirus RNA in aerosols, with a trend toward reduced detection of coronavirus RNA in respiratory droplets. Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.
there’s enough evidence to say that the best benefit is for people who have COVID-19 to protect them from giving COVID-19 to other people, but you’re still going to get a benefit from wearing a mask if you don’t have COVID-19
Masks may be more effective as a “source control” because they can prevent larger expelled droplets from evaporating into smaller droplets that can travel farther.
And to make you happier - In one simulation, researchers predicted that 80 percent of the population wearing masks would do more to reduce COVID-19 spread than a strict lockdown.
That's what happened in Thailand, in Vietnam, in Slovakia, in Poland, in Greece, even in Portugal to an extent
How many of the hospitalized received intensive care/ventilators? Of the NEW positives, how many died? - approximately 3%
For the rest, there is not enough data except that your Herd immunity is equally effective as wearing a mask. is proven wrong in Sweden and the UK, both of whom thought that herd immunity could be quickly attained with minimal pain to the economy and number of deaths. They were wrong - herd immunity is not attainable fast enough to make it economically or life-saving wise worthwhile
:: thought that herd immunity could be quickly attained with minimal pain to the economy and number of deaths. ::
Putting words in their mouths, aren’t you?
Unless, you have media accounts of their leaders claiming it.
We KNOW how well masks affect transmission in the population. We don’t need theories or lab experiments. California has provided us with a 40 million population, real-life experiment: Does mandating masks affect the spread of Chinavirus?
With the second highest rate of compliance and with 2 months of experience, we can look and see: No, it does not. It has no measurable impact. At all.
Since the incubation period is under a week for the majority, and under 2 weeks for almost everyone, if masks reduced transmission we would see a significant (measurable) reduction in the spread within 2 weeks tops. And it didn’t happen.
Sorry.
natural herd immunity will cost $12T in GDP, $1.3T in medical costs and an economy disrupted for a year
Let's take what happened in the UK as a precautionary tale of why herd immunity is a nonsensical idea for 2020 covid-19 outbreak
On 13 March, Sir Patrick stated that about 60% of the population would need to become infected for society to have "herd immunity" - effectively some 40 million people in the UK.
"Communities will become immune to it and that's going to be an important part of controlling this longer term," he told Sky News.
the communications chief shared NHS England's own advice on holding internal work events, but say "we are not telling you what to do".
"We want people to be infected with Covid-19," the notes say. "The best way of managing it is herd immunity and protect the vulnerable."
This failed
After days of scrutinising data, Hall and the team found that the total number of positive swabs in Italy and the UK were doubling much faster, closer to every three days. They presented this to SPI-M on 20 March.
The NHS was now just 14 days from being overwhelmed, according to their projections.
Over the next seven days after the release of the report, an escalating series of actions was taken. On 16 March the government set out its social distancing policy, on 18 March it announced schools would be closed and on 20 March pubs, bars, cafes, restaurants, clubs, theatres, cinemas and gyms were all closed with immediate effect.
Four months on from the introduction of the lockdown, scientists remain unsure how long any immunity from coronavirus might last.
Herd immunity is a mug's response - proven false in the short term and one that devastates the economy and ends up with more lives lost - a lose-lose scenario
Weren’t you the flubro with a bra who mocked the death toll as being below 79K way back in April?
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