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To: greeneyes

“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.

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The above means “citizen”, not “natural born citizen”.

ANyone who read the research threads on this topic has a clear understanding of the matter.


1,367 posted on 08/11/2020 8:46:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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May everyone of good will have a peaceful rest tonight, and awaken with hope and courage tomorrow. May God strengthen and protect everyone, everywhere, who is fighting for truth, for light, and for justice, and give wisdom to them all.



1,371 posted on 08/11/2020 8:50:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: little jeremiah

Well, I read the research threads, and I understood them all and the various competing arguments. Scotus did not rule on the definition of natural born citizen as it pertains to Article II, Section 1 requirement to be POTUS in Minor vs Happerstatt.

They were ruling on whether a citizen had an inherent right to vote. You are making a valid argument, but SCOTUS quite plainly was not addressing the issue of who could be president.

I happen to feel that only a person born to 2 citizen parents and born on American soil should be eligible. In addition, I think that their education and upbringing is important-they should not be raised in foreign countries in madrasas for example.

But what I think and feel is quite different from what exists. Even the State Department rules state that it is unclear. And the law that Congress passed a long time ago showed that there was disagreement even way back then. That law was rendered moot in short order.

SCOTUS could rule on a specific case or Congress could propose a constitutional amendment. Otherwise legitimate arguments can be made on differing definitions and arguments will continue ad nauseum forever apparently.


1,381 posted on 08/11/2020 9:39:23 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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