Posted on 08/03/2020 9:09:34 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas
If the United States has not certified a new President by Jan. 20, 2021, what happens??? (This Presidential term expires 12:01 PM on that day.)
Someone has opined that the Order of Presidential Succession takes over, and the Speaker of the House becomes President.
1) Is this true, Constitution scholars?
and
2) If (1) is correct, don't we have pretty conclusive evidence that the DeepState and Nazzi Peesloosley will stop at NOTHING to get Mr. Trump out of the way?
A vote-by-mail boosted turnout ~10% larger than the previous years ought to trigger extensive challenges to the results for any jurisdiction (precinct, city, county or state). Should that happen, judicial machinations could gum up the works for an awfully long time.
Could it become "heads they win, tails we lose" scenario?
Ballot harvesting in 2018 might only have been a probing operation of America's domestic defenses with respect to free and fair elections.
Here’s your clue
I really wouldn’t worry about this. It’s a non-starter.
Don’t go there FRiend.
It’s my understanding that, if no candidate has a majority of the electoral votes, then the Presidential election is decided by the House of Representatives. And the Vice President would be elected by the Senate.
If a Vice President is chosen but no President has been chosen by the House of Representatives by January 20th, then the Vice President will be acting president.
I’m not so sure of other procedures. If there is no President elect and no Vice President elect, I think that is where Nancy Pelosi becomes acting President, not President for a full term. She would be acting President until the House of Representatives shall have chosen a president.
The House of Representatives will choose a president from among the top three candidates in the electoral vote, while the Senate chooses a Vice President from among the top two candidates in the electoral vote.
Does it matter? Either way we’re looking down the barrel of Civil War 2.0.
some states will have selected electors that will vote in december, even if others fail to count their votes in time, enough that there will be people with electoral votes cast for them for either pres or vp.
the house by state delegation can select one of the top three to be pres. currently the GOP has more state delegations but the dems could win a majority if they do well in the election.
failing that, the senate by member selects from the top two vp candidates. unless the dems win a majority in the election, Pence is likely to win here.
A new congress gets sworn in before the inauguration, but what if so many congressional races are up in the air that a new Congress can’t be sworn in either? You can play this game all night.
I can almost see Joe take a dirt nap.....too much stress from the campaign. That way they choose both they want instead of getting one by accepting the other.
Is a Quorum a majority of congressional seats, or 218 out of 435? In that case, as long as a majority of congressional elections are decided, the fate of some where they are still counting mail in ballots shouldn’t matter.
In general, about 80% of congressional seats are gerrymandered, so that there is normally a clear winner on election night, without having to go to the absentee and mail in and provisional ballots.
Thanks for all that.
I’ve seen at least three scenarios similar to what you say where Pelosi could become president..
note the wording of the 12th amendment
“The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed;”
if a state fails to appoint electors, the 538 total is reduced by that state’s number, so a majority would be a number lower than 270.
a quorum is 2/3 of the states or 34 states. They vote by state delegation, 26 of the states would be needed to elect a president. The House could easily fail to manage to get to this number, and the Senate VP choice may end up President.
I love to see issues like this discussed intelligently in Jim’s forum.
Of course we can be snarky and downright foolish at times, but behind all that, there lives a patriotic corps of great thinkers and opiners
It’s important to note that each state gets only one vote. If a state’s Representatives are evenly divided between Republicans and democrats, it gets no vote. So Wyoming’s one Representative has the same vote as California’s 55. In the election of 1824, John Q. Adams, who got fewer popular votes and fewer Electoral votes than Jackson was elected by the House.
Jackson called this the “Corrupt Bargain” and spent the next four years making sure he’d win the election of 1828. Jackson did his own version of ‘draining the swamp’ when he took office.
Will the REAL ‘Trumpy Bear’ please step forward?
If it is not resolved by late January, there will be some kind of interim court decision. Even if there is a chance that Pelosi was temporarily given the role of President, she would have little popular support and the more she tried to assume power, the faster the Supreme Court would act.
This is not likely as long as we have any shred of the Constitution left. I trust the military to defend the Constitution.
the supreme court has never decided the results of a presidential election. they have ruled on the merits of lower court decisions.
the left likes to push the myth of the court picking the president in 2000, but the fact is the voters of Florida cast more votes for Bush and that’s why he won.
the senate is never out of session, and only 1/3rd are up for election, so unless all the close votes are republican seats, the senate could still have enough republicans (51) to seat pence.
if not, if the house is not resolved, they cant pick a speaker, and the president pro tem of the senate is president.
no matter what happens, the USA is ungovernable as the democrats have destroyed the institutions of civil society.
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