Posted on 08/03/2020 7:14:26 PM PDT by RandFan
@RepThomasMassie
I oppose mask mandates decreed by executives under “emergency powers” when the so-called emergency has existed for 6 months and the executive branch hasn’t consulted the legislative branch. The US Constitution guarantees residents of every state a republican form of government.
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Here's the article Massie is responding to:
Why conservative critics are wrong to oppose local face mask mandates
Libertarians are arguing that mask mandates by governors’ decree are legal?
Yes... under ‘police powers’
at least the author or the article is anyway....
Love this guy Massie.
I’m impressed that he invoked the Guarantee Clause; the first one I’ve seen to do so.
So are mask mandates illegal unless the Legislature agree’s?
Not if they are unconstitutional, which appears to be what Massie is asserting.
Someone needs to test it in court!
In Kentucky the D governor keeps on issuing EO’s to shut down businesses despite the fact that the courts have ruled against him.
totally agree with title and Massie.
No, what he’s asserting is this:
In a “Republican form of government” the laws are made by the people, a representative group of who is the legislature.
That’s it. There is no other way for something to become “law”, unless it is passed by the legislature.
The Governor is part of the executive who makes sure the laws are followed.
We have no kings or emperors. But we do have alot of tyrant wannabees.
I wrote this same thing on FR months ago.
other states have powers for governors to enact an emergency mandate, but that mandate is time limited and can only be done once, not extended.
in wisconsin for example, thats why we’re facing an unlawful mandate, his first mandate ran out for the emergency, and he cant lawfully do another for the same e,ergency, yet this is what he’s attempting to do, and the legislature needs to step up and shoot his unlawful mandate down.
That sounds too democratic rather than republican. That’s why there are constitutions of law; Tacitus is often referenced as noting that the more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state is, and Woodrow Wilson even described democracy as being against individual rights when he said (with respect to democracy) “Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals”—hence a representative legislature can be as tyrannical as a dictatorial executive no matter the title (governor, president etc.). Constitutions are meant to stand against tyrannical laws no matter who enacts them, of course.
Bkmk
Wont be long before a high tech mask comes around with miniature pixels that makes the mask look like a human face...
Or sonething else...
I’m surprised people haven’t tatted a mask...
Or have one like Rorshac had in Watchmen.
It’s time for federal intervention to restore republican government.
If we had a President like him...
I had to go to the dr. On monday. I was quite surprised they didn’t have the guards at the door forcing masks on people.
Yes they are. These outlaw Governor’s are making decrees, sort of like kings used to do. They call them laws and even include penalties for non-compliance.
An Executive Order only applies to government employees, not the public.
I’m Maryland, where I live, our constitution begins with the Declaration of rights. Our Governor has broken many articles of his oath with his illegal dictates.
Art. 2. The Constitution of the United States, and the Laws made, or which shall be made, in pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, are, and shall be the Supreme Law of the State; and the Judges of this State, and all the People of this State, are, and shall be bound thereby; anything in the Constitution or Law of this State to the contrary notwithstanding.
Art. 8. That the Legislative, Executive and Judicial powers of Government ought to be forever separate and distinct from each other; and no person exercising the functions of one of said Departments shall assume or discharge the duties of any other. (The governor did not even consult the legislature let alone wait for them to write, debate, vote and pass a bill for his signature)
There are several more but these are germane to the conversation
Art. 9. That no power of suspending Laws or the execution of Laws, unless by, or derived from the Legislature, ought to be exercised, or allowed.
Spot on.
Was promulgating exactly the same sentiment early on.
The problem is executive lawmaking; routine, unexamined extensions of emergency declarations by power-drunk governors; and a weak, fawning, lazy, or complicit legislature unconcerned with the fact that their power has just been ruthlessly usurped, rendering them redundant and worthless.
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