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the ADA is asking for stories about diabetes. (Keto)
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Posted on 08/02/2020 8:37:36 AM PDT by Drango

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To: Pining_4_TX

I highly recommend The Magic Pill, it’s on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6duhSjYyj0k


21 posted on 08/02/2020 1:20:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Well, they speak of different types of fasting, such as "One Meal A Day (OMAD)" for one example, and "18/6" (a six-hour eating window, 18-hour fasting period, each day - a breakfast skipping program) for another, some of which are easier to follow than others.

(The object is to get your body's insulin under control.)

There is also a sort of a "keto-plus" plan, called the "carnivore diet", where they only eat fatty meat (like ribeye steaks), but they eat sufficient amounts that they don't seem to get overly hungry from doing that.

I don't know if any of those would be helpful for you, but you might want to look into them.

22 posted on 08/02/2020 1:27:59 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Pining_4_TX
Either cut your total calories 5%, or add exercise. Walking is generally safest (look out for cars and Antifa rioters!) and most sustainable.

Or get a qualified experienced trainer to walk you through about a dozen different weightlifting exercises with good form and start lifting 3x / week.

23 posted on 08/02/2020 6:20:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I have cut my calories to 1300 a day and have been trying to walk more. The fact that I’m an old gal doesn’t help, of course. Less muscle mass and more trouble burning calories. Today I am re-doubling my efforts. We will see.


24 posted on 08/03/2020 6:48:44 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“Many think the increase in circulating insulin is what really damages the body, more so than the increase in blood sugar.”

I haven’t heard that but that theory came to me when watching one of Dr. Fung’s videos. How showed a study that compared the degradation in people who did not ‘treat’ their Type 2 diabetes, with those who did. No difference in results - they both degraded and at the same rate (of many years). What’s the difference in their ‘insides’. The people ‘properly’ treating their diabetes have lower blood sugar than those who don’t. But both groups have high insulin levels...and both groups degrade at the same rate.

Left me wondering whether they’re trying to control the wrong substance in the body and whether they should be working more to lower insulin levels (i.e., keto), which will also take down glucose (by default). Dr. Fung showed the study in the video, which I watched several times, but he doesn’t make the connection that elevated insulin levels may be doing more damage than elevated glucose.

But given Keto, or at least a major reduction in carbs, works for both insulin and glucose, it really doesn’t matter to people on Keto as to where the issue resides.


25 posted on 08/03/2020 7:31:49 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Rock on!

But lifting *will* build muscle mass.


26 posted on 08/03/2020 8:15:38 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: BobL

“Left me wondering whether they’re trying to control the wrong substance in the body”

I think that is probably correct. All the type 2 diabetes meds lower blood sugar, but it’s doubtful that they do anything to mitigate the damage done by the disease.

The book “Rethinking Aging” by Dr. Nortin Hadler addresses these issues about treating for the numbers. The numbers are not the disease.


27 posted on 08/03/2020 2:15:04 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks! I’m pretty slug-like, so I have to force myself to exercise. I like doing some of the Silver Sneakers videos, but then I find out just how out of shape I am. :-)


28 posted on 08/03/2020 2:16:22 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Pining_4_TX

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29 posted on 08/03/2020 2:17:24 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: Songcraft

Thanks. I’ve pretty much tried all of them. However, I am going to attempt to limit my eating window better than I have been doing.


30 posted on 08/03/2020 2:18:04 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: BobL

Speaking of that, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine sponsored a study that claimed a high carb diet consisting of complex, high fiber carbs was the best diet for type 1 diabetics. Well, the Physicians Committee is a front group for animal rights activists and only about 2% of the members are actually physicians. Every one of their press releases promotes vegetarian diets.


31 posted on 08/03/2020 2:20:24 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Damn, that was my own conclusion (that knocking down glucose levels without also knocking down insulin levels was useless)...and to think that the medical community has spent 100 being TOTALLY WRONG in their treatment of millions of people. They might as well have been giving their patients aspirin instead - same level of benefit (none) and far cheaper. Crap.


32 posted on 08/03/2020 2:30:04 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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Ping


33 posted on 08/03/2020 2:30:42 PM PDT by kalee
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To: BobL

If there is no benefit, why tolerate any risk?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=3232247&page=1

Very old article, but it is in the same vein as what he says in his books. Too bad that when people hear we should have fewer tests and take fewer drugs, they immediately think of rationing, Obamacare, etc.


34 posted on 08/03/2020 7:02:39 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Wow, thanks. The guy was years ahead of his time. The only thing that I’m willing to worry about is blood pressure, and even for that I set my own targets (145/95) and tweak my dosage to hit those numbers. There was even a huge, long-term, study in Scandinavia and 60 Minutes reported on it, maybe 15 years ago (back when I watched TV). Wound up that not a single person who lived to old age had low blood pressure...they all were at least moderately high. They had no as to why, but that’s what they saw.

I also ask questions that no one seems interested in regarding this virus - they say you’re much more likely to get sicker and possibly die if you have high blood pressure. What they don’t say is how the virus is able to figure out that you actually do have high blood pressure - as I doubt the virons actually bring a sphygmomanometer with them, when they infect people (I had to look that term up). I suspect it’s the drugs they’re taking for the high BP...but no one discusses that, except the Brits, and then only indirectly.


35 posted on 08/03/2020 10:27:06 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: BobL

Hadler has a whole section about hypertension in his book, Rethinking Aging.


36 posted on 08/04/2020 6:13:10 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Drango

I am more or less Keto, really avoid carbs without fiber and am at 71 a lean mean machine to the point my wife thought I was planning to leave her because I was getting so skinny. Not going to happen.


37 posted on 08/04/2020 6:52:51 PM PDT by dblshot (R)
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To: Drango

I admit I did not read the entire thread so may have missed something.

Does anybody have anything that they can add that would be helpful for type 1 diabetics?


38 posted on 08/04/2020 7:06:33 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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Spread the word! If you live in one of the states that has Braum’s (Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas) they have the absolute best low carb bread. It’s their Carb Watch bread, and it’s inexpensive and, unlike a lot of other commercial low carb breads, it’s delicious.

Unfortunately, they don’t ship to other states. Wahhhhh! I am planning on calling some managers in a few of the Braum’s locations nearest to us and ask if s/he will order a whole box of loaves, then ship them to me. It’s worth it!

If my daughter, SIL, and our youngest grandchildren didn’t live here in Iowa, I would already have moved farther south.
Boo. :-(


39 posted on 01/29/2021 5:47:49 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (‘You can drive out Nature with a pitchfork, but she keeps on coming back.’ – Horace)
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