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1 posted on 07/30/2020 8:17:43 AM PDT by simka
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You might want to have a conversation with Ohio, sir


2 posted on 07/30/2020 8:20:07 AM PDT by madison10
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To: simka

I think it’s coming. The President will take action but first the MD communities need to step up which they are starting to do now.


3 posted on 07/30/2020 8:21:55 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Jonas Salk...


4 posted on 07/30/2020 8:22:27 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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I find it perplexing that Trump continues to praise Fauci, who is very anti-Hydroxychloroquine, with only mild criticism. With this literally being a life and death issue for some, you'd think Trump would come out more forcefully, and would add health professionals who can bolster this argument. But hey, we've got lots and lots of ventilators!🙄
5 posted on 07/30/2020 8:28:59 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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It will be over in 30 days if he does this. But think about it... the never Trumpers and those with TDS won’t take it... they all get sick and quarantine for the next decade...


6 posted on 07/30/2020 8:28:59 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: simka
spread the word about this White House petition:

Permitting over-the-counter (OTC) use of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) to protect against COVID-19 under an emergency EO

7 posted on 07/30/2020 8:29:19 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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Why isn’t this already covered by his new RIGHT TO TRY law...?

If you are dying from deadly horrible coronavirus you might as well try anything you want


8 posted on 07/30/2020 8:35:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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I feel like the HCQ situation has gotten out of control

Trump mentioned it early on just trying to be upbeat and hopeful “I’ve heard good things about HCQ”, basically reading the same random reports a regular person would. Then Fauci says something basic like “well we’re not sure let’s not get our hopes up just yet”. And the whole thing gets exaggerated and politicized by both sides to ridiculous levels

People calling them “trump pills” and any time someone dies it’s “well did they not take HQC and vitC” like it’s magic. And it doesn’t help when it feeds into conspiracy theories and all the other nonsense. And a big part of it is denial that COVID is even a serious thing we need to deal with.

The truth is probably that we don’t know for sure yet if it works yet or not and there are maybe some other treatments and we need to explore everything


17 posted on 07/30/2020 8:59:14 AM PDT by Nomad577
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President Trump should enact his same right to try law for covid. Hydroxychloroquine is an over the counter drug in many countries.


25 posted on 07/30/2020 9:21:04 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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1. Use the last census to ID an address and it's occupants

2. send a $1 pack of HCQ pills for each occupant enumerated, in a $1 postage envelope.

3. 2 bucks a head times (whatever many) adults in the USA (NOT scientifically established)

A hell of a lot cheaper than another $1200.00 a head.

31 posted on 07/30/2020 9:48:54 AM PDT by knarf
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Perhaps the new Kodak Pharmaceuticals facility in Rochester NY will be the key. The 765 million dollar loan is not just to produce re-agents but also to produce HCQ. The sooner that ramps up for production (hopefully not months) the sooner he can make it OTC imho.


34 posted on 07/30/2020 10:09:20 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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To: simka
Dr. Zelenko provides an excellent analogy that most everyone can understand.

First SARS-COV-2 = Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome - CoronaVIRUS - 2

COVID-18 = Coronavirus INFECTIOUS DISEASE - 19

VIRUS vs. DISEASE

News reporters are saying people ‘tested positive for COVID-19’; NO!

You don’t test positive for the DISEASE. You test positive for the VIRUS and most that test positive for the VIRUS never develop the DISEASE.

The DISEASE COVID-19 is ‘diagnosed’, not ‘tested’.

Most people have the VIRUS but don’t know it. Such people will develop antibodies naturally and never know they are infected. Their immune systems are strong enough to handle the Coronavirus and the virus infection never progresses to a disease state (COVID).

Hospitalizations:
There are two general categories of hospitalizations with COVID-19.
1. Go to hospital as soon as symptoms appear - no wait.
2. Go to hospital after waiting too long.

There are other hospitalizations:
* Sick with other things but get tested with positive result or have family member or friend with positive VIRUS (not necessarily DISEASE). Then such sick people are labeled,, branded as having COVID-19 even though it’s false. Lots of variations on this mixing things up.

COVID-19 progresses to pneumonia like symptoms, difficulty breathing, pneumocytes fill up with fluids induced by cytokine response, cytokine storm; pneumocytes start to fill up and patient starts to suffocate, can’t breath.

Now to Dr. Zelenko’s analogy:

COVID is like a FIRE of a home.

For those that get to the ER right away, the fire is small and easy to put out, minimal damage, patients recover within 24 hors as if nothing ever happened.

For those that wait too long, the fire is out of control, an entire fire department will not be able to save the home. In this case, a patient may survive but with severe lung damage. Many die.

Obviously, HCQ + Zn + Zpak will have mixed results for hospitalized patients depending on how fast they got to the hospital.

The doctors who are now speaking out (and there have been dozens over the last couple months just not broadcast, news suppressed), their patients called them, and the doctors got them to the ER FAST! And that made the difference, the recovery rates are very high.

Now, those that are asymptomatic, don’t know they have anything, they take HCQ + Zinc as prevention, as prophylaxis (Zpak not necessary because no symptoms). These people may or may not have the VIRUS but they never get the DISEASE, the COVID-19.

Therefore, the pandemic can be over in a month if the general population were to take HCQ + Zinc for prevention.

Another Zelenko analogy:

HCQ = gun
Zinc = bullet

If progressing to COVID-19, then:

Azithromycin (Zpak) = bullet-proof vest

to stave off bacterial pneumonia.

Is Zinc necessary? In general yes.

If a person drinks red wine with meals, or eats a lot of seafood, especially shell fish, those dietary items are loaded with Zinc, so the Zinc levels in their blood plasma are high enough without needing Zinc Sulfate or Zinc picolinate supplement.

But to be sure, everyone should take a Zinc supplement.

Dr. Zelenko recommends if you are in an area where a ban is placed on HCQ (crime against humanity), then substitute Quercetin which does not require a prescription.

But HCQ is the best because it has two actions:

1, It opens small pores (channels) on the cell surface to allow Zinc to get inside the cell where it blocks the SARS-COV-2 from replicating (multiplying). Quercetin does this as well, both are known as Zinc ionophores.

2. But HCQ also binds with the ACE2 receptor that the SARS-COV-2 uses to enter into the cell, the HCQ closes the door on the virus.

Summarized:
1. HCQ gets the Zinc into the cell to stop the virus from multiplying
2. HCQ closes the door on the virus reentering the cell.

If a patient can’t get HCQ because it’s banned (crime against humanity) and they take Quercetin as a substitute, they will survive if started early but will take longer to recover because the virus gets stopped by the Zinc but gets flushed back out into the blood where it reenters cells because the ACE2 door (receptor) is still open. HCQ shuts this door but Quercetin does not, so it takes longer using Quercetin to rid the body of the Coronavirus through elimination in the urine.

35 posted on 07/30/2020 10:18:44 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: simka

MAKE HCQ, ZINC OVER THE COUNTER DRUG AND BE DONE WITH THIS NONSENSE. THIS WOULD TAKE BIG PHARMA OUT OF THE EQUATION.


36 posted on 07/30/2020 10:18:51 AM PDT by chopperk
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Hysterics. This thing isn’t that bad and doesn’t demand prophylactic medications. Grow up and stop being a drama queen.


38 posted on 07/30/2020 10:31:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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Did Fau Xi approve?


40 posted on 07/30/2020 11:28:26 AM PDT by 353FMG
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