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Brass vs. Steel Cased Ammo – An Epic Torture Test
Lucky Gunner Labs ^ | 9/21/19 | Andrew

Posted on 07/26/2020 5:03:33 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s

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To: kingu

Bushmaster’s quality took a major dive when they got bought by Remington and moved away from Windham MA.


41 posted on 07/26/2020 7:08:02 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Bump for a friend.


42 posted on 07/26/2020 7:09:23 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Those are pretty standard for FMJ in those calibers. Lethal, yes, but no more so than similar rounds of decent quality.


43 posted on 07/26/2020 7:10:10 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Neither the AK or AR is a battle rifle.

Well, you got me on that. Though to be honest, if the SHTF and we have to start shooting Democrat ferals, I don't care much how it is labeled if it works for me.

44 posted on 07/26/2020 7:15:41 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....your weren't really there..)
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To: bk1000
All I know is my Bushmaster AR15 does NOT like Wolf coated steel ammo.

I don’t know why.


I've got a Remington 770 bolt action. Bought some .270 Sellier&Bellot rounds, just basic softnose for range days. For some reason, my rifle could not eject a round and feed the next one. Bolt action, and I could barely cycle it. Had to drop the mag and hand-load one round at a time to get it somewhat smooth. But it shoots the cheap Federal stuff just fine!
45 posted on 07/26/2020 7:41:28 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: bk1000

My m&p sport 2 loves it. It’s something like 7,200 rounds in with no problems. I also bore bath it every so often to prevent stuck cases.

All my AKs eat the hell out of it, I’m talking decades. Seen 2 AKs choke ever and both were my fault


46 posted on 07/26/2020 8:08:17 PM PDT by This_Dude
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To: ChildOfThe60s

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47 posted on 07/26/2020 8:19:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Thanks. The internet is infinite LOL


48 posted on 07/26/2020 8:37:05 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....your weren't really there..)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Have put many cases of Wolf through my AK's and Norinco SKS's with few issues over the last 30-years...

Found out early on that my Ruger mini 14's hated steel... Brass only...

Bushmaster (20-years old) gets fed only prime beef...

M1 Garand eats 30-06 with never a hiccup...

49 posted on 07/26/2020 9:13:42 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: SuperLuminal

Be careful shooting modern factory loads out of an M1. They’re made for old milspec ammo and is under gasses compared to the hotter modern stuff and they often bend or break op rods. There’s a gas plug you can get that has larger and smaller gas holes that are adjustable


50 posted on 07/26/2020 11:09:49 PM PDT by This_Dude
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To: dynachrome

Funny thing about mosins is the cosmoline, lacquer, etc that doesn’t get ALL THE WAY cleaned out of the chamber will act like glue and screw your extraction. I took all the wood off and baked it in the oven at 400 for 2 hours to melt that crap outta there, which helped, but my cases were still a little sticky. I ended up getting an old bore brush for a 20 gauge and a drill, brushed the absolute crap out of the chamber, threw some paint thinner in there, brushed it around again and polished it out with a barrel swab. Worked pretty good and cycled ok for a while


51 posted on 07/26/2020 11:17:39 PM PDT by This_Dude
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To: Svartalfiar

Had a Remington 710 in .30-06 do something like that. When you try to shut the bolt, the round would pop out of the mag and out the ejection port. The feed lips were too wide, and it was a used gun with no warranty, so I bent the feed lip nearest the E port in just a hair with a punch and a mallet and it’s been in business ever since


52 posted on 07/26/2020 11:22:00 PM PDT by This_Dude
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Thanks for the good post. Some of the information is useful for people who don’t fire steel ammo, too.


53 posted on 07/26/2020 11:53:12 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Steel is cheaper but always seemed dirtier to me - and rougher on ejectors and other parts that it comes in friction contact with.


54 posted on 07/27/2020 3:58:28 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I’ve *been* in a SHTF situation where the cops weren’t coming and mobs thought it was a nice idea to burn down the store I was on top of - LA 1992.

It’s why my AK is a 12 gauge shotgun and feeds off drums. Dense mobs are more area than point targets, the nominal engagement range is going to be well within 00 buck’s capability and you don’t have to worry about lethally hitting some innocent kid in a house (or a fellow defender) 400 yards downrange.


55 posted on 07/27/2020 4:34:45 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Absolutely no question about it. A shotgun is an essential component of home defense guns.

Drum capacity?


56 posted on 07/27/2020 6:08:52 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....your weren't really there..)
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To: This_Dude

Yea, mine wasn’t the Remington though. I tried several other varieties of ammo, and they all worked fine. it was only the S&B ammo that had issues extracting.


57 posted on 07/27/2020 8:01:43 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Variable. Drums for it are available in 10, 12, 15, 20, 25 and 30 round capacities. I favor the 12 and 20 round sizes.


58 posted on 07/27/2020 9:11:59 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: This_Dude

Fortunately all the cases of 30-06 I have I bought during the late 1990’s...

Only take that horse out of the barn once or twice a year...

Thanks for the info...


59 posted on 07/27/2020 10:53:56 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Also - pump guns are just too slow and too prone to operator error in a ‘defend against zombie horde/riotous mob’ scenario. Saw that first hand in 1992, and at three fun matches ever since.


60 posted on 07/27/2020 4:07:14 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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