Posted on 07/14/2020 5:44:49 AM PDT by Red Badger
“”””1.5 liter engine in an “off road” vehicle? Seems very wimpy to me.”””””””””””””
The motor on my lawnmower is bigger than that.
The Sasquatch (yes, really) package looks to be the real off road add.
“I had a 2003 Ranger XLT and it did good by me.”
I’ve got a 2002 that I still run. The interior smells like like someone left a dead squirrel in there but otherwise I haven’t ever had any trouble.
FYI, I have had three Tacoma’s.
1988, 1999 & 2012
The 88 was $11K brand new. 2.4 liter 4 cyl. Probably still running somewhere like Afghanistan. These were the trucks where all the beds rusted out.
The 1999 was $22K brand new. These were the Tacoma’s that were part of the 800K buy out because of the rusted frames. I sold mine back to Toyota in 2012 for Kelly Blue Book Full Retail x 1.5(14K for a 13 year old truck).
The 2012 was $30K. I still have. It was just recalled for frame inspection. It was fine, so they undercoated the frame for free. Some 2011’s are having the frames replaced.
I would not buy a 2015-2020. They are having major transmission problems with these trucks after the redesign in 2015. They are not recommended by Consumer Reports now just because of that. Also, they are so close in price now to a Tundra. I would buy a Tundra.
Toyota stopped making the FJ Cruiser. They were the used vehicle that had the best resale value of ANY automobile made. They just never sold very well. Although they were better than other vehicles in the same class. When I bought my 2012 Tacoma, they had about 25 Tacoma’s on the lot. They had ONE FJ Cruiser. I think they should have called it the Landcruiser I(like they were in the 1960’s-1970’s) Of course, they came with GM V8 engines back then.
The Rangers were great little trucks. The newer F-150s seem pretty solid. The 2010 was junk.
I had a Bronco II for ten years ,loved it
My personal history with them is as follows: 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee - I owned for appr. 10 years and put over 300K miles on it. At that point, the transmission was beginning to slip, and I traded it in for a 2004 Grand Cherokee.
2004 Grand Cherokee - Put just under 200K on it. Only major repair was replacement of the water pump about 9 years into ownership. One of the most comfortable rides I've ever had, and was a pleasure on annual drives from Louisiana to Pennsylvania and back. Traded it in after 10 years for a 2014 Wrangler Rubicon.
2014 Wrangler Rubicon - Absolute off-road beast. This was a JK series Wrangler. Mine was stripped down with minimal electronic suites, and the only comfort item was satellite radio. I was very impressed with the 6-speed manual and the Pentastar V6. Other than regular oil changes, no maintenance was ever needed. The Rubicon is the package optimized for off road use, and I made regular use of its capabilities. I went through two sets of tires in about four years. Due to a change in my family circumstances, I needed to get something with a little more interior room and comfort and this was the saddest, hardest vehicle I ever had to give up. Traded it in in 2018 for a Cherokee Trailhawk.
2018 Cherokee Trailhawk - I've been driving this for two years. Early models of the Cherokee had some bad reviews, but by 2018 they seemed to have worked out the issues, as I've had none. Last October, I had a HUGE oak tree fall on the vehicle. It dented the roof and bulged the headliner into the interior 3-4 inches and compressed the vehicle all the way down on its springs. None of the glass shattered, and it occurred to me that anybody sitting in the vehicle at the time would have been uninjured (apart from soiled pants). GEICO took care of the damages and I've had no issues with it since. It has an elaborate electronics suite, more so than I would care for, but that said, I make use of them. The Trailhawk trim of the Cherokee is made for off-road, but is still not as capable in this area as the Rubicon. The 9-speed automatic transmission is a little quirky, but you get used to it. All in all, I'm happy with it.
If you're looking for a Wrangler, or Wrangler Unlimited (four door), know that Jeep is now producing the JL series, which superseded the JK. As an upgraded design, I've heard/read that there are still some bugs being worked out, so if I was in your position, I would look to see if I could find a later model JK from a dealer that will sell it as certified pre-owned.
Also do a little research. The Wranglers/Wrangler Unlimiteds come in a few different trim levels
Sport - is the basic trim level. Fun, but limited options, and a good running around vehicle (with limited cargo/passenger room).
Sahara - probably the widest array of options and creature comforts.
Rubicon - optimized for off-road use, with upgraded axles, front and rear locker, and electronic anti-sway bar disconnect. Unless you plan on doing a lot of offroad in very difficult terrain, it's probably an unnecessary expense. Also, the other trim levels are perfectly adequate for most basic off road situations that most people will generally need. The Rubicon is just a little better at it :-)
My grandson has a 2005 Ford F150 sitting in a Ford garage waiting for a replacement computer. It’s going on its 2nd month sitting there.
1.5 liter?
The Toyota Corolla has comes with a 1.8 liter engine 4 cylinder standard
A Fiat 500 has a 1.5 Liter engine and it is a two door Spec
1.5 Liter in a SUV just seems under powered for that size of vehicle
Jeep is owned by FIAT
Probably the worse car company to sell in the United States
Fiats are so bad, they stopped selling them here in the US this year, very unreliable cars
Jeep Renegade and the Jeep Compass are Fiat Vehicles with a Jeep stamped on them, they are not “real” Jeeps
Wranglers and the Cherokee are the two that are “real Jeeps”.
However even their quality has been going down hill since Fiat has owned them.
Fiat=Fix It Again Tony
Oh, you’re talking about the “Getaway Edition”.
I'll stick with my Grand Cherokee vs. going with a 4-banger Bronco.
If that’s the case, and I’m not saying it isn’t, than the overall quality to price from 1966 was by far the better deal than 2021.
Lazy, woke workers building a “new” Bronco with cheap plastic, computer chips and cheap Chinese steel?
And it will include driving gloves that don’t fit...
Same here, if I wanted to watch big screen TV, i'll do it in my living room. lol.
You can see the commercial now - a bloated and aged OJ leaning out of the window with a smarmy, sheet-eating grin on his face and a thumbs-up gesture.
Awesome! Thanks for the review.
Kinda reminds me of an old Ford Falcon / Fairlane.
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