WARNING: SLIDE RE CITIZENSHIP”
I just want to clarify and extend my remarks:
LJ wrote:
...the court observed that new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization and that the Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Under the common law, according to the court, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
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EXTENSION OF MY REMARKS:
Yes, and it was this case that the court continued on to say: “Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”
This was a voting-rights question brought to court before the 19th amendment. As Minor was clearly a citizen, it was not necessary to explore citizenship doubts, but the question to consider was:
“The direct question is, therefore, presented whether all citizens are necessarily voters.”
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Also LJ wrote this:
State Department info up until not long ago, maybe a bit more than 20 years, stated that to become president one had to be born on US soil to two US citizen parents. Verified by greeneyes.
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To clarify, I stated that this was what I was taught in citizenship class. I did not examine State Department data of 20 years ago.
I did however, look up the State Department documents in effect during the Obama eligibility debate—and it was not so clearly stated—but it did note that it was uncertain if a child born on foreign soil could be eligible for the presidency(assuming both citizen parents) and noted that no known court case had issued an opinion on that exact question.
I think I may have actually posted a direct quote from that document in one of the threads way back then.
I hope that helps the discussion.
Thank you! I remember during the 0bola threads freepers who were born overseas with mil parent/s were taught they could not become president due to not being born on US soil but had all other rights as any other citizen.
Before 0bola ran for office changes were being made already in State Dept policy apparently.