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The world's largest Confederate Monument faces renewed calls for removal
Reuters ^ | July 3, 2020 | Rich McKay

Posted on 07/03/2020 5:04:39 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: Alter Kaker

As you know only 4 states passed declarations of causes. Mississippi was the only one that just listed slavery. The other 3 listed economic grievances such as the tariff and federal subsidies to corporations and infrastructure in the North that vastly exceeded federal outlays in the South. Texas listed a malicious refusal by the federal government to provide border security as it had agreed to do in Texas’ accession treaty with the US.

Why list slavery? Because refusal to enforce the fugitive slave clause of the constitution by the Northern states WAS actually unconstitutional. They could legitimately say the Northern states had thereby violated the compact. No matter how much they hated it, they could not say the tariffs or the federal outlays to the North that vastly exceeded those going to the South were unconstitutional.

If it were really “about” slavery, why did the Northern states/Lincoln Administration offer the Corwin Amendment aka “slavery effectively forever”? Why did the Original 7 seceding states turn that down?

Obviously the 5 states of the Upper South which seceded only after Lincoln chose to start a war to impose a government upon people who did not consent to it were not seceding over slavery.


61 posted on 07/03/2020 7:35:58 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: All

ISIS and Taliban destroyed ancient Buddha statues and stone carvings. So the BLM can join the ranks of the other terrorist organizations. Nothing like terrorist street creds.


62 posted on 07/03/2020 7:37:17 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I told myself to stop drinking but thought "why should I listen to a drunk who talks to himself")
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To: siberianheat

There is a dedicated cadre on this site,


63 posted on 07/03/2020 7:42:01 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

On one family vacation we visited Stone Mountain. The tramway was running and while traveling to the top of the mountain we could see the workers carving the figures. I would say that it was about 80% complete when I visited.

Very impressive!


64 posted on 07/03/2020 7:49:18 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: C19fan

Reuters just set it’s doom. Leftist wouldn’t know about it unless it’s plastered on the news everyday. Now some idiot will deface it


65 posted on 07/03/2020 8:28:19 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: flaglady47

No, Mount Rushmore is spectacular. Very well done. Do you think this is on par with Mount Rushmore?


66 posted on 07/03/2020 9:18:14 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: CodeJockey
Open your eyes. Cable cars.

Open up your sense of place...as in visible was not the place to put them. I did not notice they are cable cars but that does not change my point. Do you think it looks like proper placement?

67 posted on 07/03/2020 9:20:03 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: central_va

I hope there are people on guard to makes sure none of the Western Taliban climbs up or drops down planting explosives.


68 posted on 07/03/2020 9:25:35 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Guenevere

I get the feeling that when we finally get released from - or fight our way out of - this shutdown, all of our old landmarks - monuments, street names, everything associated with the past - will be gone. Or at least that’s what they want.

It’s not just the landmarks, it’s all the memories associated with them, the memories of a different way of life, the memories of when we were free.


69 posted on 07/03/2020 9:34:25 AM PDT by livius
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To: Demiurge2

You noticed that, too, huh ?


70 posted on 07/03/2020 10:31:04 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: central_va

If I recall correctly Stone Mountain is privately owned. It isn’t a state park or a federal park. So the state can’t do anything to it.


71 posted on 07/03/2020 11:08:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: C19fan

“towers ominously” Interesting description from the hard core left. I never felt threatened by it.


72 posted on 07/03/2020 11:33:52 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: central_va

Ominous?


73 posted on 07/03/2020 11:34:20 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: MrChips

Yep. The overwhelming majority of soldiers in the Confederate forces fought for slavery just as those US soldiers who fought in Iraq did so because they wanted to keep the oil flowing to the free world, right?

Nope. That was the ruling elites of both wars who wanted those goals. The people and soldiers were manipulated and fed different, “patriotic” reasons to accomplish the task.


74 posted on 07/03/2020 11:34:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: livius

My sentiments as well......

Where I was born my town was a main battlefield....
....our first apartment, when married, was part of an old home in a historic neighborhood on a ridge and we had cannon in our back yard


75 posted on 07/03/2020 11:41:36 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

This is the South’s Mount Rushmore!


76 posted on 07/03/2020 11:43:10 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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To: Rebelbase

Stated very well.. I agree. Thank you.


77 posted on 07/03/2020 11:59:00 AM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: Guenevere
This is the South’s Mount Rushmore!

Apparently they still don't have the industrial capacity of the north.

78 posted on 07/03/2020 12:51:54 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: laweeks

Stone Mountain and the CSA monuments at Gettysburg and other battlefields will be gone in less than 10 years. Mt. Rushmore might last a little longer, but it will be destroyed one of these days.


79 posted on 07/03/2020 6:00:10 PM PDT by damper99
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To: elcid1970
People are fed up and a new “wokeness” is starting to emerge.

Let me know when that happens. If "people" ever get fed up, they will do nothing. They will take the path of least resistance, just as they have to this point in time.

80 posted on 07/03/2020 6:04:12 PM PDT by damper99
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