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To: jeffersondem; OIFVeteran; ek_hornbeck; DiogenesLamp; Bull Snipe; Pelham
jeffersondem: "United States are not a nation?
Even as President Jackson expressed his personal opinion the United States was intended to be a single nation with absolute power, his words give reason to question the thought process of this hot-tempered duelist."

And thus... just for ek_hornbeck's edification, jeffersondem confirms my report that our Lost Causers loathe & despise Andrew Jackson, not because he was a slaveholder or Indian oppressor, but because he was a patriot!

And Jackson had numerous other admirable qualities, including the fact that he was the only US President ever to pay off the national debt -- not just pay-down, he paid it off entirely.
That's why other patriots, like our current President, go out of their way to defend Jackson.

Now, as to jeffersondem's narrow point regarding: is the USA a singular or plural term?
Before roughly 1900 there was no set rule on plural vs. singular and one was used about as often as the other.
Do you remember the 13th Amendment?
It also refers to the United States as plural, so, contrary to Shelby Foote, the Civil War did not suddenly change our terminology.

But... being a typical (an unapologetic) Democrat, jeffersondem just cannot simply admit, "yes, you're right about Jackson", but instead must search for some minor point of grammer to claim victory over.

48 posted on 06/28/2020 4:58:11 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK; ek_hornbeck

“And thus... just for ek_hornbeck’s edification, jeffersondem confirms my report that our Lost Causers loathe & despise Andrew Jackson, not because he was a slaveholder or Indian oppressor, but because he was a patriot!”

Brother Joe’s angry musings bring to mind the line from “Ball of Fire”: “Red as the ‘Dailey Worker’ and just as sore.”

The vignette starts at the two minute mark. It is something Brother Joe is not: warm, amusing, and fun-loving.

https://youtu.be/x5p5LBMdCko


57 posted on 06/28/2020 2:53:00 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: BroJoeK; ek_hornbeck

“And thus... just for ek_hornbeck’s edification, jeffersondem confirms my report that our Lost Causers loathe & despise Andrew Jackson, not because he was a slaveholder or Indian oppressor, but because he was a patriot!”

Brother Joe’s angry musings bring to mind the line from “Ball of Fire”: “Red as the ‘Dailey Worker’ and just as sore.”

The vignette starts at the two minute mark. It is something Brother Joe is not: warm, amusing, and fun-loving.

https://youtu.be/x5p5LBMdCko


58 posted on 06/28/2020 2:53:14 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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