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As Confederate Statues Come Down, It's Worth Remembering That the Civil War Wasn't the Only American Conflict Involving Slavery [Mega Hurl]
Time ^ | June 22, 2020 | Phillip Goodrich

Posted on 06/23/2020 5:56:31 AM PDT by C19fan

The Confederate monuments that are coming down across the United States have once again ignited a generations-old American argument. Though the idea that the war was really about the “noble cause” of states’ rights retains its mystique for some, historians agree that the root cause of the Civil War was slavery. The worst American war in the nation’s history—from the standpoint of casualties, direct costs and indirect consequences—was fought in a vain attempt by the Confederate States to preserve that “peculiar institution.” Now, 155 years later, not only are statues of Confederate leaders being removed in cities from Richmond to New Orleans, Confederate battle flags are being banned at public events and U.S. military bases named after Confederate military leaders face possible name changes. But the Civil War did not occur in a vacuum; it was the culmination of centuries of institutional racism against people of African origin. The previous 240 years had seen ongoing suppression of the rights of Black people to live free within America. Long before the Civil War, history records efforts of individual enslaved people to revolt, to escape or both, with varying degrees of success. The Civil War was the culmination of a failed racial policy that was stillborn in 1619 when the first Africans were brought to Virginia and sold to the highest bidders. And, as many Americans hope to take this moment to reassess the way the nation thinks about its past, it’s worth remembering that the Civil War was not the only American war in which slavery played an important role.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: 1619project; blm; fakenews; orwelliannightmare; race; revisionisthistory; stalinisttactics
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This author is rehashing the discredited theory popularized in the "1619" project that the Americans, especially from the southern colonies, wanted independence because Britain was going to abolish slavery. The people behind the "1619" project had an African-American historian vetted the piece and she warned then this theory is wrong.
1 posted on 06/23/2020 5:56:31 AM PDT by C19fan
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The utter cricket silence of those academic university and college ‘Southern historians’ is resounding................................


2 posted on 06/23/2020 6:00:48 AM PDT by cranked
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The Somerset decision was in 1772 just three years before the war started. Trouble was brewing for almost ten years before that as the Stamp Act was passed in 1765. The British did not ban the slave trade until 1807. Britain did not end slavery through out the empire until 1833. William Wilberforce did not enter Parliament until 1780. The Committee for the Abolition of the Slave Trade was not formed until 1787.


3 posted on 06/23/2020 6:01:41 AM PDT by C19fan
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with malice toward none. —Abe Lincoln


4 posted on 06/23/2020 6:02:54 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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If the southerners were motivated by slavery then why was the southern colonies the most Tory area during the Revolution. Banastre Tarleton led a British Legion that grew to 2,000 men in the south.


5 posted on 06/23/2020 6:03:54 AM PDT by C19fan
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I’m a yankee (or, as my southern friends say, a durn yankee). I was proudly born in the north, and have family who fought - and died for - the Union during the Civil War. With all that said, I don’t have any problem with confederate statues. Robert E. Lee was a man of compassion and integrity, as were many confederate leaders. That doesn’t mean they were perfect people, but I think it’s better to keep the statues and learn history. When you LEARN from history, you have a smaller chance of repeating it.


6 posted on 06/23/2020 6:04:51 AM PDT by Kharis13
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It must be understood the attacks on southern history was just the opening shot to destroy the American flag, and the Republic for which it stands.


7 posted on 06/23/2020 6:05:12 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: cranked

Confederates were democRATS, every stinking one of them.


8 posted on 06/23/2020 6:06:24 AM PDT by 9422WMR (democRATS are destroying the country.)
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The Democrats of the 19th century WERE the Constitutional Conservatives of the day.


9 posted on 06/23/2020 6:08:42 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Time? Is it still publishing?


10 posted on 06/23/2020 6:12:11 AM PDT by yardboyd (Call me a rose.... or leave me alone.)
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This is all BULLSTALIN

THE UK continued to have slavery around the world.


11 posted on 06/23/2020 6:23:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: C19fan; Army Air Corps

Almost as much B.S. as when they try to push the “Second Amendment was ratified to ensure slave patrols” bollocks.


12 posted on 06/23/2020 6:24:56 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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Time is lying by omission.

They are now tearing down statues of Churchill, Ghandi, George Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, Abe Lincoln, Christopher Columbus, and have come after statues and stained glass windows of Jesus Christ.

This isn’t about slavery or the civil war, this is about Western Civilization and white people.


13 posted on 06/23/2020 6:25:27 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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I’m afraid you’re right. It’s human nature for the have-nots to eventually rise up against the haves. And white western culture has had more, had it sooner, and accomplished more than any other civilization in the history of the world.


14 posted on 06/23/2020 6:34:49 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Your real threat is not some imagined shooter- it's that extra 30+ lbs of fat on your heart.)
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And cotton was in no way the basis of wealth on either side of the Atlantic in 1770. Cotton production in England was 10% that of wool in 1770. The production of cotton as a major staple did not occur until the development of the cotton gin. If the author can’t get this right...


15 posted on 06/23/2020 6:38:21 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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The headline is correct -
The first American conflict after forming the new government was going to war against the North African regimes, who were capturing and enslaving Americans from ships in the Mediterranean.


16 posted on 06/23/2020 6:38:41 AM PDT by AbnSarge
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DoN’t WoRrY. ItS oNlY sOuThErN hIsToRy ThAt WiLl Be DeMoNiZeD. ThEy WoUlD nEvEr dO tHaT wItH tHe ReSt Of AmErIcAn HiStOrY.

sO We CaN pIlE oN sOuThErNeRs At No CoSt. ThAt CrOcOdIlE wIlL eAt Us LaSt.


17 posted on 06/23/2020 6:41:28 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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The authors would say it was reaction to the plantation class being pro independence, while in the mid Atlantic and New England the opposite happened as the wealthy merchants and shippers stayed loyal as they saw England protecting their interests.


18 posted on 06/23/2020 6:41:53 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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Indigo, rice and tobacco were some of the crops important early on. Another key trade item was lumber.


19 posted on 06/23/2020 6:44:21 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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“”I was a little girl growing up in Birmingham, Alabama, in the late fifties, early sixties,” she explained. “There was no way that Bull Connor and the Birmingham Police were going to protect you.”

“And so when White Knight Riders would come through our neighborhood,” she said, “my father and his friends would take their guns and they’d go to the head of the neighborhood, it’s a little cul-de-sac and they would fire in the air, if anybody came through.”

Condoleezza Rice


20 posted on 06/23/2020 6:52:13 AM PDT by lizma2
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