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The question no one is asking: How many people died of regular flu this year?
The Fop

Posted on 06/21/2020 11:50:08 AM PDT by The Fop

Back in the early part of the year, prior to the COVID-19 lockdowns, a lot of people, including the likes of Dr. Fauci and Anderson Cooper, told us we should be more worried about the seasonal flu than COVID-19.

Typically, around 55,000 Americans die every year from seasonal flu. There are all these websites out there tracking COVID-19 deaths. They tell us how many people died each day from COVID-19 in each State and each country. Currently over 122,000 people have supposedly died in America from COVID-19.

So are there another 55,000 people who died from the seasonal flu in addition to the 122,000 who supposedly from COVID-19? Are there any charts that can tell us? Is anyone keeping track? Is anyone even asking?

Well here is my guesstimate. I'd guess that the typical average of 55,000 Americans died of the flu this year. Another 30,000 elderly people died of natural causes, but their deaths were falsely recorded as being caused by COVID-19. And maybe another 40,000 actually died from COVID-19.

I'm not a doctor, and I'm open to someone completely disproving my guesstimate. Please, somebody, show me some hard data on seasonal flu deaths this year. Because I haven't heard one word about the seasonal flu, ever since the locKdowns began. AND I SMELL A RAT!


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To: The Fop

I think you’re pretty close.

I have never seen a delusional push like I have seen in the last 3 months.
The government put trillions out there to grab however you can.
The hospitals are taking a beating and, are fudging for dollars.
This election year is fascinating, exciting, terrifying all at once.


61 posted on 06/21/2020 7:43:51 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: The Fop
24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths The number of hospitalizations estimated so far this season is lower than end-of-season total hospitalization estimates for any season since CDC began making these estimates. - https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

In March, the CDC reported,.

The overall cumulative hospitalization rate was 67.9 per 100,000 population, which is higher than all recent seasons at this time of year except for the 2017-18 season. Rates in children 0-4 years old and adults 18-49 years old are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing the rate reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Hospitalization rates for school-aged children are higher than any recent regular season but lower than rates during the pandemic. . (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#ILIActivityMap)(Retrieved 3-17-20)

Laboratory confirmed influenza-associated hospitalization rates for the U.S. population overall are higher than most recent seasons and rates for children 0-4 years and adults 18-49 years are the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing rates reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Hospitalization rates for school-aged children (5-17 years) are higher than any recent regular season but remain lower than rates experienced by this age group during the pandemic.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2 (Retrieved 4-06-20)" Mortality surveillance: Based on National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) mortality surveillance data available on March 26, 2020, 8.2% of the deaths occurring during the week ending March 21, 2020 (week 12) were due to P&I. This percentage is above the epidemic threshold of 7.2% for week 12.
62 posted on 06/21/2020 8:14:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: The Fop

Basically my opinion will be informed by this-

How many Americans died of all causes in 2019.?

How many Americans died of all causes in 2020?

if I don’t see a significant increase in deaths in 2020 I’ll know it was basically a flu replacement.

10,000 more deaths and I’ll figure COVID hit us for 5-10,000 people.

We’ll see.


63 posted on 06/21/2020 8:30:09 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: Persevero

As the author, I hearby christen you thread winner!


64 posted on 06/21/2020 8:43:27 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: Persevero

There should be a way to determine these numbers for Jan - June, for 2019 and 2020, for a half year comparison.


65 posted on 06/21/2020 8:47:33 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: The Fop

Wow thanks Fop!


66 posted on 06/21/2020 9:02:51 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: The Fop

Just went to the CDC website. They estimate that for the 2019-2020 flu season (Oct 1st 2019 through April 4th 2020) somewhere between 24,000 and 62,000 died from the flu. I’m not kidding. So why should we have confidence in Covid-19 nunmbers?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm


67 posted on 07/06/2020 8:17:58 PM PDT by ChessExpert (NAFTA - Not A Free Trade Agreement)
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To: RightField

Your link was as of March 11th 2020. Covid-19 deaths were just getting started at that time.

I suggest you do a search on “Covid-19 dashboard.” Then I like to select “trends” then “deaths.” You can select different states, or countries. US Deaths are down. Same with the states that I have looked at. The death data has periodic drops. Delayed reporting for the weekend?


68 posted on 07/06/2020 8:29:25 PM PDT by ChessExpert (NAFTA - Not A Free Trade Agreement)
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To: RightField

Your link was as of March 11th 2020. Covid-19 deaths were just getting started at that time.

I suggest you do a search on “Covid-19 dashboard.” Then I like to select “trends” then “deaths.” You can select different states, or countries. US Deaths are down. Same with the states that I have looked at. The death data has periodic drops. Delayed reporting for the weekend?


69 posted on 07/06/2020 8:29:25 PM PDT by ChessExpert (NAFTA - Not A Free Trade Agreement)
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