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Colin Montgomerie: It is time to introduce a new tournament ball to counter Bryson DeChambeau's strength
UK Telegraph ^ | June 13, 2020 | James Corrigan

Posted on 06/14/2020 4:56:43 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan

Ban the ‘woods’ or at least the low number ones. Perhaps ban the 3 iron and below. That would shorten the drives.

Or add some strategic sand traps to move the landing zone in and and reward accuracy. If properly placed, they wouldn’t even affect the recreational players.


21 posted on 06/14/2020 6:21:36 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Redwood71

Problem is if guys are regularly driving 350 yards the game is going to get boring. Like the window when mens tennis was ruled by the service ace. And recent season of baseball that are all either home runs or strike outs. The game will flatten and become less interesting.

The real solution is more wiggle in the courses. Between the equipment and the strength training there’s nothing you can do top stop 350 yard drives from becoming the norm. But you can make it less useful. Redo courses to reward accuracy not brute strength.


22 posted on 06/14/2020 6:39:46 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: Fair Paul

I digress, but I turned on the TV to watch the tournament yesterday. It took all of five minutes to have the racist narrative shoved down my throat.

Didn’t see any of it. Can you explain please?


23 posted on 06/14/2020 6:46:17 AM PDT by greenishness
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It was a commercial, I don’t know for what, it might have been a PSA. It was very preachy, I didn’t care to stick around. I just want to watch the event for what the event holds, I know that’s no longer possible. Sports is now 95% sideshow, 5% show.


24 posted on 06/14/2020 6:58:49 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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25 posted on 06/14/2020 7:08:02 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Become a monthly donor and stamp out FReepathons.)
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To: newfreep
DeChambeau looks more like a "fat belly golfer" than muscle buffed.

Maybe he's an XX and she's pregnant.

But man, can he hit a golf ball.

26 posted on 06/14/2020 7:12:27 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: discostu

Why not boom the ball 350 yards when the landing area is so big on most courses? Narrow that part of the fairway so that longer hitters need more accuracy, and use that extra rough to make the second shot more difficult if possible by aiming the drive away from the best angle for even a wedge to the green. Make the Par 5’s more difficult to reach with a short second shot. Also add some hazards for the players that can cut across a dogleg. The element of risk/reward will make the game more interesting by forcing big hitters to learn course management instead of letting them overwhelm the course.


27 posted on 06/14/2020 7:21:31 AM PDT by yawningotter
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To: USS Alaska

Wasn’t there an incident last year or the year before where he took a very long time for like an eight foot putt, analyzing it from every conceivable angle and still missed it? Is he one of the slower golfers on Tour?


28 posted on 06/14/2020 7:23:12 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: deoetdoctrinae

Thank you!


29 posted on 06/14/2020 7:37:07 AM PDT by NativeSon ( What Would Virginia Do? #WWVD)
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To: Joe Boucher

You’re absolutely correct. The impact of every step running on a hard surface, around a thousand or more for every kilometer, amounts to a multiple of a person’s weight and will eventually damage feet, ankles, knees, hips, and vertebrae. And runners otherwise judged to be extremely fit do sometimes just drop dead in the middle of a run. Water provides resistance, equivalent to weight training, in every dimension and without harsh impacts.


30 posted on 06/14/2020 7:38:36 AM PDT by katana
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To: yawningotter

Yup. They need to change the course. Narrower greens. More doglegs. More hazards. Fewer and shorter straight lines. Make guys learn to drop a ball at 280 yards, or 250 on this hole. Accuracy over power.


31 posted on 06/14/2020 8:25:14 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: Fair Paul
Wasn’t there an incident last year or the year before where he took a very long time for like an eight foot putt, analyzing it from every conceivable angle and still missed it? Is he one of the slower golfers on Tour?

I don't know about the putt but he is slow.

All of his clubs have the same shaft length so he takes the physics aspect of distance and wind and up/down hill very mathematically, which is very time consuming.

He is a very good pro, but there is no fun in his game.

For example, several years ago at the Masters, Bubba Watson was in a sudden death playoff on the 10th hole and hit his drive 50 yards off line into a group of trees 150 from the hole.

Bryan D would have been stymied and punched out after 10 minutes if calculations.

Bubba, walked into the woods came out and looked again and then hooked his wedge 150 yards at a 90 degree angle onto the green, an almost impossible shot.

That was fun to watch, but Bryan's mechanical swing would never have allowed it to happen.

To be fair, since it was a left handed hook, only Phil might have been able to pull that shot off.

No right handed golfer could have sliced a wedge 150 yards with a 90 degree fade onto the green {or would have tried it}.

32 posted on 06/14/2020 9:08:17 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: Bookshelf

The size of some drivers is obscene.

Notice the golfers on the PGA, as a whole, are your basic strong as a bull? Club head speed, even with a fully weighted head, in the hands of a huge man can offset the size.

Look at the ladies. The average drive is up about 18 yards over the last 5 years. But getting off the tees is overrated. Pros don’t use #1 as often because they are long. They are playing for position on the approach shot. Let’s face it, if you can hit a wedge 100 yards to an area 10 feet square every time, why wouldn’t you want to hit that shot? This is how Jack changed the approach to the game in his competitive years. That’s how scoring is done.

Getting in between clubs, creates mistakes or long putts. Why not hit it a little shorter, earlier, and get that normal swing wedge shot that can give you the opportunity to birdie because you prepared for it? The game is not won with eagles. They can turn into bogies real quick. It’s won with birdies and playing in the short grass. This is the reason Furyk is competitive and wins. He plays within himself. But he doesn’t use 350 and 50, when he can use 250 and 150 more consistently. The pros don’t have a club for 50, so they end up struggling with touch of a little practiced shot or they flop. And that shot didn’t even exist with the wedges they had until the last few years. Most pros don’t even carry 2 and 3 irons anymore. Extra wedges.

Don’t create ulcers trying to baby a shot because it was drive for show....unless you can. And that’s what they are complaining about. If they could, they would. (The chicks love the long ball) And the funny thing is the club you use the most is the putter. Why not take advantage of it and give yourself a chance?

rwood


33 posted on 06/14/2020 10:26:47 AM PDT by Redwood71
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“Redo courses to reward accuracy not brute strength.”

I completely agree. But like airports, the public has built housing around them. They have no place to stretch out to cover the 350 and make it part of the game. The only thing you can do is make it dangerous to use it. Traps. water, extended rough (cut fairway size), tree limbs, pin placements, and tee locations cost money. And it also cuts the scores of the PGA star, and everyone is, so they don’t appear so great.

The only difference between the PGA touring pro and the amateur playing the course, is practice time, better conditioning, designed clubs, and better course conditions. If they force the pros game too close to the amateur capacity, there goes the mystic and a whole lot of shoes, hats, and balls are not quite so important to buy and they stay on the shelves. I don’t know if you remember that pro golf didn’t catch on very fast.

The greatest major player of them all, Jack, won the Ohio Open in 1956 at age 16 competing against professionals. He placed second behind Arnie in the 1960 US Open as an amateur.

Sorry, off track. I don’t think there is any way to level a field in pro golf. Too many variables with different players and different shots they can perfect. They need to leave it alone. Just expect them to execute what they have. If they do, they’re competitive. If not, a missed cut.

rwood


34 posted on 06/14/2020 10:47:18 AM PDT by Redwood71
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