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Gundlach: A 'wave' of layoffs is coming for $100,000/year white-collar jobs
Yahoo Finance ^ | June 9, 2020 | Julia La Roche

Posted on 06/09/2020 6:24:48 PM PDT by fluorescence

Billionaire bond investor Jeffrey Gundlach, the CEO of $135 billion DoubleLine Capital, sees the potential for a "wave of more higher-end unemployment' hitting white-collar workers making more than $100,000 per year as employers increasingly question the value these employees bring.

In 11 weeks, more than 42 million Americans filed for unemployment insurance as the COVID-19 pandemic wrecked the economy. The bulk of these job losses hit lower-income households the hardest.

"A lot of times it's not the earthquake, it's the fire," Gundlach said on a webcast for the DoubleLine Total Return Bond Fund (DBLTX), later adding that he could "easily see layoffs in various industries" affecting higher earners.

Gundlach, who runs the Los Angeles-based bond investment firm, explained that one of the outcomes of remote work is it reveals who produces and who doesn't.

"What people may have learned for white-collar services jobs, in particular, during the work-from-home lockdown situation, at least in my perspective — I've talked to a lot of my peers on this — I kind of learned who was really doing the work and who was not really doing as much work as it looked like on paper that they might have been doing," Gundlach said.

He's witnessed this at DoubleLine, where people running "certain groups" haven't been as responsive, while the more junior members on their team have stepped up.

"I wonder where they've gone. It seems like the people who work for them are constantly in contact with me doing all this work and some of the supervisory, middle management people I'm starting to wonder if I really need them. And this is just a one sample thing," he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 2016election; doublelinecapital; election2016; jeffreygundlach; layoffs; telecommuting; telework; workfromhome
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To: freedumb2003

ok :)


21 posted on 06/09/2020 7:22:34 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: rightwingcrazy
since he founded the company, pretty much anything he wants to...
22 posted on 06/09/2020 7:29:50 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: redangus

Obviously you have never worked for a semiconductor company.
You have no idea how hard people work at them to get product out on time and within the fab available window.

My first boss at Intel told me after his 3.5 marriages:
“Look for the day when you can walk out the door and not think about work...and NOT be carried out with a toe tag”

I managed to survive 30 years at Intel but some of my friends have not.


23 posted on 06/09/2020 7:49:04 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: upchuck

I agree, during the chinese virus shutdown a lot of government workers were sent home for a couple of months with no impact to society. A serious as to why these people were employed to begin with. The government could easily remove at least a third of the workforce to the benefit of the private sector.


24 posted on 06/09/2020 7:51:57 PM PDT by grcuster
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To: upchuck

They could start toilet paper and cleaning wipes businesses.

And PPE companies.

And meat processing facilities.

And local pharmaceutical businesses which make basic, generic meds.


25 posted on 06/09/2020 7:55:08 PM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: fluorescence

Reviews (Indeed and Glassdoor) from his employees are negative on its management, leadership, use of technology, and culture. Quarter of his workforce does not approve of the CEO.


26 posted on 06/09/2020 8:01:02 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: kevcol

27 posted on 06/09/2020 8:05:42 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ConservativeMind

It is typical of most organizations, whether .gov, private, non-profit, etc.

There are a small percentage of key people who make the place work.

Most of the employees are either barely hanging on or a net negative to the organization.

The definition of a good manager is someone who can figure out who is who.

Good managers are as rare as the good employees. ;-)


28 posted on 06/09/2020 8:30:15 PM PDT by cgbg (Kneeling is a half measure--lefties need to dig a six foot hole and bury themselves in it.)
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To: Zathras

Obviously you have never worked for a semiconductor company.
You have no idea how hard people work at them to get product out on time and within the fab available window.

My first boss at Intel told me after his 3.5 marriages:
“Look for the day when you can walk out the door and not think about work...and NOT be carried out with a toe tag”

I managed to survive 30 years at Intel but some of my friends have not.
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VERY similar working in the engineering center of a multi-plant petrochem facility. EVERY one who left for “something else”(less stress, less hours) got rid of blood pressure meds within a month of leaving. BUT you do get to see new tech all the time, solve problems constantly, and actually see things you design, build, startup....actually function for decades. We do use contract employees.

Saw the hatchet swing in 2000/2001 and 2008/2009 and a bit recently.


29 posted on 06/09/2020 8:30:26 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: fluorescence

With many people working from home the past 3 months a lot of “managers” are sitting around wondering what to do. They have literally nothing to do in many cases.

At my company I’ve been questioning the value of all the managers for many years.

In my humble opinion they not only offer zero value, they’re actually net negative value because they usually make situations worse.


30 posted on 06/09/2020 8:36:26 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: Newtoidaho
And schedule pointless meetings one feels obligated to attend instead of doing useful work.
31 posted on 06/09/2020 8:45:01 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Only to be replaced by filthy dot Indian H1B scabs.


32 posted on 06/09/2020 8:47:12 PM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: fluorescence

Back to the 80s? Again?

A cohort of mine came up with his “Rule of 1,000”. It says that once you reach the point of 1,000 employees no real work need be done for them to look busy while they are communicating.

In a similar way, fewer meetings are being held now and it some outfits people are finding spare time on their hands yet the work is still getting done. Amazing.

BP is returning to their roots and reorganizing. This is a familiar theme with them and they draw it out to maximize the anxiety seemingly on purpose.


33 posted on 06/09/2020 8:53:18 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: fluorescence

“It seems like the people who work for them are constantly in contact with me doing all this work and some of the supervisory, middle management people I’m starting to wonder if I really need them.”

i had a boss who believed and used to say all the time that at any given level in any organization that “20% of the people do 80% of the work”

my own observations have pretty much confirmed his rule of thumb ...


34 posted on 06/09/2020 8:54:15 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Newtoidaho
With many people working from home the past 3 months a lot of “managers” are sitting around wondering what to do. They have literally nothing to do in many cases.

Sure they do. They spend all day trying to attach themselves to or take credit for the work of the producers.

35 posted on 06/09/2020 8:54:30 PM PDT by Kenny Bania (Ovaltine? Why not call it Roundtine?)
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To: ConservativeMind

see my post:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3853925/posts#34


36 posted on 06/09/2020 8:56:11 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: cgbg

see my post:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3853925/posts#34


37 posted on 06/09/2020 8:58:19 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: grcuster

It is an unspoken axiom that many government jobs exist to provide a middle class lifestyle to otherwise unemployable Americans. It’s cheaper than assistance.


38 posted on 06/09/2020 9:06:35 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Sequoyah101

I worked at home a couple of days a week before I retired.

We had meetings, but when they got boring or stupid (90% of the time during the meeting) you could multi-task and get real work done.

If you were in the office, everyone would be very offended if you were ignoring the speaker and doing real work during the meeting. Your boss might get down-right hostile, especially if they were the boring or stupid speaker. :-)


39 posted on 06/09/2020 9:12:16 PM PDT by cgbg (Kneeling is a half measure--lefties need to dig a six foot hole and bury themselves in it.)
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To: JonPreston

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40 posted on 06/09/2020 9:14:33 PM PDT by ldish (2020 Election will determind if USA remains a Consitutional Republic!)
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