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1 posted on 06/09/2020 11:27:56 AM PDT by gspurlock
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My recollection of this is that it was a crutch to help people get over the hurdle that logic percents.

That is, it allows you to believe some thing that logic tells you is wrong because reality tells you that, but the state has a reason for you to believe fully That something that is illogical or contradictory to your senses it’s true… Because the state wants you to believe it is true for whatever reason they have.


2 posted on 06/09/2020 11:31:17 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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And in an odd way, you are right… It is to prevent rebellion.

Remember… The state doesn’t want you to just be able to say something with the truth clearly it’s not… They want you to believe it in your brain.

That is,They want to prevent you from engaging in CrimeThink which would be a form of rebellion.

The key is... You must believe.


4 posted on 06/09/2020 11:34:54 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: gspurlock

like Slavery IS freedom...

freedom from having to make decisions
freedom from worrying about where your next meal is coming from
freedom from the hassles of oppressing others.


6 posted on 06/09/2020 11:36:45 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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To: gspurlock

Freedom is the ability to say 2+2 =5.


7 posted on 06/09/2020 11:37:36 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?U)
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As you can probably tell, this is an important topic for me. Orwell’s 1984 was supposed to be a cautionary tale, not an instructional manual as the Left seems to feel.

jmacusa is correct...that is a form of doublethink. See, O’Brien did not want Winston to just SAY 2+2=5...he wanted him to BELIEVE 2+2=5.

Just saying it to make the torture stop was not enough.

And then, after years of work and toil by the State to make Winston the perfect citizen, to be pliant and believe EVERYTHING unquestioningly, THEN they will allow him to die and victory will be theirs.

In Orwell’s 1984 (And Modern America’s Left) There will be no last minute (before the bullet hits the back of your brain tissue) shouts of “I WILL DIE A FREE MAN!” or “BIG BROTHER SUCKS DONKEY C**K!” which would be a loss for the state. Everyone must die a perfect citizen.


9 posted on 06/09/2020 11:48:26 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: gspurlock
The modern day equivalent is 'cognitive dissonance '............. Liberals are good at it..............😉
10 posted on 06/09/2020 11:49:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Always trust God............but wash your hands......................)
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14 MINUTE VIDEO EXPLAINS WHY THE LEFT MUST DESTROY AMERICA!
THE MIDDLE CLASS MUST NOT FAIL or ALL IS LOST
https://www.brighteon.com/9ecba7de-cba4-4d9f-aa54-38e9bd790e1c


11 posted on 06/09/2020 11:51:47 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES YOU!)
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Orwell defines doublethink as, To know and to not know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy is impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy. To forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself.
12 posted on 06/09/2020 12:07:47 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: gspurlock
Every American school should require <1984, Brave New World, and Atlas Shrugged.
13 posted on 06/09/2020 12:08:50 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: gspurlock
Full text of 1984: http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt
15 posted on 06/09/2020 12:16:13 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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To: gspurlock

Avoid Room 101 if you can.


19 posted on 06/09/2020 1:43:07 PM PDT by dainbramaged (That information is classified. Request denied.)
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To: gspurlock

Watch Seven Days in May.
You will see the attempt to destroy a President using the Media and key people inside the Gov.

The only difference is the movie attacked Conservatives and those attacking the President were in the military instead of the State Dept, DOJ, IRS, FBI, CIA

Its actually scary how far we have fallen


21 posted on 06/09/2020 2:28:41 PM PDT by Zathras
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"It was purposeful to keep the population mentally docile and to prevent rebellion."

My understanding is that the purpose was to legitimize contradictory policies. This was necessary because every policy had a public justification but rarely was this the real justification. As a result, contradictions abounded. The solution was to suggest that the stability of society depended upon believing two contradictory ideas simultaneously.

Basically everybody was expected to simply ignore these contradictions for the benefit of all.

22 posted on 06/09/2020 5:56:24 PM PDT by William Tell
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