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1 posted on 06/07/2020 10:51:38 PM PDT by Jonty30
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What are you doing that a citizen couldn’t do?
Don’t see the advantage.


2 posted on 06/07/2020 10:57:21 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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Security guards are usually employed in largely civilized environments, where the miscreant is the rare exception. Put Paul Blart in East LA, Bedford-Stuyvesant or Englewood, and I’m not so sure that’s going to work out too well.


4 posted on 06/07/2020 11:01:27 PM PDT by Stosh
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Sure...just form a neighborhood militia...

Then you could patrol the streets and “protect” the citizens and businesses.

Of course..you’ll need to get paid somehow..so those citizens and businesses will need to pay a “tribute”

It’s not much...just a couple hundred a week.....

And if they don’t pay?? Well, nice house/business you got here...shame if something happened to it during the next riot.

Seen the movie many times.


5 posted on 06/07/2020 11:02:21 PM PDT by Spaceman61
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I expect your situation is the same as that of many cops who are called to a crime scene. For instance, Chauvin, the guy being railroaded by the powers-that-be, has been involved in two shootings in his 19-year career, only one of which involved a death.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-police-officer-center-george-floyd-s-death-had-history-n1215691

In the second, George Floyd’s, the death was inadvertent - the result of a drug problem coupled with a viral disease and pre-existing cardiovascular conditions possibly related to routine drug use. Just how bad can drugs screw up your cardiovascular system? This bad:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Bias#NBA_draft,_drug_overdose,_and_death


7 posted on 06/07/2020 11:03:15 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Only if they had the same powers/authority as the cops do now...Or did.


8 posted on 06/07/2020 11:04:56 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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The problem is the people that want to cause these kinds of problems are not your normal law abiding citizen.

And I think you know that.


9 posted on 06/07/2020 11:05:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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> for minor problems whether cops should be called at all <

I can’t remember what city it was, but about a month ago I was reading about a city that was looking into what you said there.

For something serious, they would send a cop. But for something minor (like, say, a noise complaint) they would send another kind of responder- an unarmed city representative.

And it’s important that the responder be unarmed. Because otherwise you start running into use-of-force problems, just like we have now.

There’s a chance that might work in sleepy little towns. Help grandma get her cat out of a tree, that sort of thing. But anyplace else, I’d have to say no. Too many of those responders would be easy targets for angry folks, drunk folks, crazy folks, etc.


10 posted on 06/07/2020 11:07:06 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Joke post?
Like Dirty Harry said, “How many felony arrests have you ever made?”
Watch this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9rcIJIWqYmo
11 posted on 06/07/2020 11:13:19 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Smh....they will eat you for lunch.

The ONLY thing thats gets you respect in the HWW (hood while white) is being 100% straight up...and taking zero shit from anyone....and of course...being strapped.


13 posted on 06/07/2020 11:16:33 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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I'm a security guard. My experience is that 90%+ people will comply to my request to move on if I confront them

And just how did the looters and the rioters react when you politely asked them to move along these past two weeks?

14 posted on 06/07/2020 11:19:25 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Seriously?

Who is this guy?


17 posted on 06/07/2020 11:20:57 PM PDT by HIDEK6 ( God bless Donald Trump.)
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If you weren’t backstopped by cops no one would listen to a word ;you said.


19 posted on 06/07/2020 11:23:19 PM PDT by Defiant (I hope the Russians trick me into voting for Trump again in 2020.)
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Ask George Zimmerman how it worked out for him when he asked Trayvon Martin to move along.


20 posted on 06/07/2020 11:23:28 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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well, I’d say if you’re guarding Macy’s in a well-lighted area and it’s 9pm and only a few guys around, you’ll probably be ok.

until the cars roll in with these guys, who are All armed and who want to loot Macys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJvgozge0Q&feature=youtu.be

And cops are 27 minutes away.


22 posted on 06/07/2020 11:28:32 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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We could ask David Dorn?


23 posted on 06/07/2020 11:34:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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I just read in “Second City Cop” that the Minneapolis City Council has voted to disband their police department - looks like we get to watch ‘Little Mogadishu’ turn into ‘Big Mogadishu’!


25 posted on 06/07/2020 11:38:57 PM PDT by Stosh
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I remember a “white Hispanic” doing this a few years ago.

It did not satisfy the radical Left.


26 posted on 06/07/2020 11:41:25 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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Sounds great in a wealthy area where reasonable people listen to you. But I do not see it working in a poor ghetto where it is might makes right, and street gangs and drug dealers on a corner need to be run off by bigger, badder government people who will shoot them if they have to, or a crazy homeless guy is on every corner threatening people with a machete. To say nothing of the fact you want a surge capacity of cops for things like these riots.

Now if you wanted to propose deputizing you, so you could use force and shoot if need be, that is fine, but it seems like what we already have.

What the left is working toward here is hiring private security forces they will control fully, and which they will probably link up with the private intelligence operations they already run (which the cops don’t like but are forced to bow down before), to form a unified tool of total control.

Getting rid of cops is a far worse thing than anyone realizes, and I am sure a lot of people already think it is very, very bad. But it will be much, much worse if it is allowed to happen.


27 posted on 06/07/2020 11:45:47 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (How did politics evolve in animals? Check out r/K Selection Theory. (www.anonymousconservative.com))
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I used to live and work in a large city. Even with a large police force, so many violent crimes were committed that 911 didn’t send the police for the other crimes. For most calls, 911 took your report over the phone and didn’t dispatch anyone.

So, already, in high-crime areas, police don’t do anything about most of the crime committed. Now imagine what would happen with even fewer police officers.


28 posted on 06/07/2020 11:53:18 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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No!!! We do not need and should never have rent-a-cops playing police. VERY BAD IDEA. First, they have no legal authority. Second, they--in my experience--want to have things done a specific way or not based on their interpretation of instructions, even when in clear violation of posted rules, the law, or our constitutional rights.

I was recently in a state government building which had a rent-a-cop. Concealed carry was allowed, weapons allowed. The sign on the door asked as a courtesy that we not bring weapons in. Not as a requirement. Yet the rent-a-cop spotted my knife, the clip was on the outside of the pocket. He demanded, yes, demanded that I turn it over or remove it from the facility. I pointed to the sign, he said that didn't matter as he was told to not allow any in. Never noticed my concealed carry. Anyway, he was completely wrong, violated my rights, and state law. I asked for a manager, who deferred to the rent-a-cop since he was supplied by a state agency. I got their contact info, contacted them, well got voice mail. After several days of persistance, got someone on the phone that played stupid about the whole thing--not even admitting it was some of their contract rent-a-cops. Really frustrating. Real cops would not have left me in this predictment.

So, no to rent-a-cops when we should have real cops.

30 posted on 06/07/2020 11:55:02 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Workers)
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