Posted on 06/01/2020 11:34:13 AM PDT by dalight
The New England Journal of Medicine has published an article stating that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little protection from infection and assesses their true value as anxiety alleviation.
We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.
The calculus may be different, however, in health care settings. First and foremost, a mask is a core component of the personal protective equipment (PPE) clinicians need when caring for symptomatic patients with respiratory viral infections, in conjunction with gown, gloves, and eye protection. Masking in this context is already part of routine operations for most hospitals. What is less clear is whether a mask offers any further protection in health care settings in which the wearer has no direct interactions with symptomatic patients.
…It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals. Although such reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety, especially during times of crisis.
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Well obviously I will have to take it off for that part, but I imagine that he will not remove his as he has to do a bit of grinding on a couple of teeth.
But they have enacted measures similar to what was at my doctor’s office, which were an outdoor question style screening, 6 feet between chairs in the waiting room, mask on the whole time, no hand shaking etc.
At this point I think this entire thing is/was a sham, and these measures are pointless, but I don’t mind following them for a time if asked. If I am told by some authority that I must, such as mandatory masks in Virginia, I will defy that authority. I’ve had it with this. I think this whole thing was an exercise in control and submission.
The transmission studies come from China. They were early on. But, they did conclude that the masked people didn’t catch COVID19 on the whole and this justified all that came after.
Dunno. Too few data points to really support their conclusions. Just guesswork.
The masks these people were wearing are no better than the surgical masks but probably better than the hand made ones. But, in the end, the particle sizes are so small for the virus and the openings so big for these run-of-the-mill surgical masks that its like straining soup with a cattle fence.
So they make you wear a mask just so they feel better.
I’m sitting in a doctor’s office right now wearing a mask THEY insisted I wear (I have my own).
This is control freakism.i detest karens.
I do have a scarf over the mask to keep it in place which would rationally do more to capture a virus than a tissue of clothing. A lot depends on how the mask is washed and treated but certainly there are cases of outdoor transmission (depending on the weather).
Personally, I will choose to take my business elsewhere in that case. I’m not really angry with them for doing this, it’s their call, but I HATE wearing a mask so much that I’m just going to avoid it as much as possible any way possible.
I am not currently aware of any business in NW Florida making that request. I see some businesses making their employees do it, but they are not making their customers do it. Maybe Target is, but since I don’t shop there, I can’t say for sure.
Thank you very much!
Yes They are.
Uh.. hands in mouth, grinder or polisher throwing up clouds of particles.. hopeless.
The Assistant better have a full body hazmat suit with positive pressure.
Indeed. Imagine being a dentist with some very deadly, highly contagious disease “actually” going around, which was clearly not the case with COVID-19.
It would have to be one of the most hazardous jobs ever.
In a doctors office, it makes sense. Sick people go there, and they have to go there. I would say, put up with it.. and I am as anti-mask as others. Once you are in the exam room and they have checked your temperature and vitals it should be optional if you aren’t actively feverish or have other flu symptoms. That’s what my Doctor is doing. We probably should be doing this all along..
I find that I get very warm under they thing; and, I begin to feel like I am not getting any air (oxygen). I ususally walk around with one hand holding the bottom of the mask away from my face so as to get some air into that area. Hate those things.
I also refuse to wear one out of doors. Once I leave a store, I immediately take off the mask. If anyone would ever challenge me, I figure I can ask them to name one instance when someone caught this virus out of doors and in the sunshine.
I agree about not wanting to wear the mask.
It was the employers mandating employees wear masks; non-healthcare employers need to see that NEJM article.
From the NEJM: "This article was published on April 1, 2020, at NEJM.org."
The article itself, reads like an op-ed as opposed to a research paper subject to peer review. Also, we have learned a lot about the Wuhan Flu over the last two months since the article was published, and what the so-called experts thought might be true two months ago, has often been wrong or misguided.
I feel for these people forced to wear masks by their employers.
I’ve seen it at Publix and several restaurants I’ve eaten at recently. These people are busting ass, and I know they cannot breathe easily through them. I feel like I’m suffocating when I have one on for any length of time.
I feel the same way. Our rights don't go away just because of the fears of others.
So, in other words, all these lines OUTSIDE stores are absolutely the wrong thing to be doing. Inside the store during normal times you briefly pass people and never stand next to any one person for more than a few seconds (except maybe in the checkout line).
Outside the store waiting to get in you are in SUSTAINED contact with the same persons in front and behind you for 10 to 20 minutes.
Will anybody tell the brain-dead health authorities that they are forcing people to do exactly the wrong thing?
I posted a version of this the other day to play with the mask fascists. If you want to borrow some of my insults, let me know.
If masks don’t offer protection then doctors and nurses shouldn’t wear them. Next time you go in for surgery, demand no masks anywhere in the OR.
My Walmart employee friends have to wear masks 8 hrs a day, including on breaks unless they leave the building. I think it’s senseless and hazardous to health, but they need their income.
Yep, I agree with it being senseless and hazardous to health, and I also respect them for following those orders, knowing that I would not follow those same orders. I simply can’t function in them.
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