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Police Lawyer Gives his analysis of George Floyd's death.
Youtube ^ | May 30, 2020 | Hildy

Posted on 05/30/2020 11:35:47 AM PDT by Hildy

The George Floyd - Minneapolis video. Analysis and comments


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To: basalt

and yet you think you know better than the lawyers with multiple years experience in this very area...

Confidence is not the same as competence.


141 posted on 05/30/2020 5:06:41 PM PDT by sojc (Liberty lover. Medical doctor.)
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To: shelterguy

“Will you let me know when you discover the actual cause of death?”

Per the ME, the cops actions “likely contributed to his death.”

Let me know when you acknowledge the obvious.


142 posted on 05/30/2020 5:10:42 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: shelterguy

“Will you let me know when you discover the actual cause of death?”

Per the ME, the cops actions “likely contributed to his death.”

Let me know when you acknowledge the obvious.


143 posted on 05/30/2020 5:10:46 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: sport

“”””””’ The facts speak for themselves.”””””””””””

You wouldn’t know a fact if it ran you over.

You saw a video. That’s it.

No witness statements, no statements from ambulance people, EMT’s, the police who were there, etc.

You have no cause of death. No toxicology report. No statements from medical experts.

But you have determined the cop intended to kill him.

I hope you are never on a jury. If the case involves something like unpaid parking tickets you will vote to give him the electric chair.


144 posted on 05/30/2020 5:11:53 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: TexasGator

“””Per the ME, the cops actions “likely contributed to his death.””””””””””””

So it MIGHT have. It MAYBE did.

Do you have anything a bit more conclusive? Like actual facts?

Are you ok with just using guesses before you charge someone with murder?


145 posted on 05/30/2020 5:14:56 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

“Are you ok with just using guesses before you charge someone with murder?”

I do not have the authority to charge someone with murder.


146 posted on 05/30/2020 5:21:31 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: shelterguy
If the case involves something like unpaid parking tickets you will vote to give him the electric chair.

Don't be a pinhead. Your comment above and your lynching references do not promote credibility in your argument.

147 posted on 05/30/2020 5:24:42 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: shelterguy

“Do you have anything a bit more conclusive? Like actual facts?”

Facts:

1. Cops used an unauthorized tactic which. likely contributed to the death.

2. Cops maintained the unauthorized pressure after subject became unconscious.

3. Cops maintained pressure even. after determining subject had no pulse.

4. Cops gave no medical assistance to the restrained subject, unconscious with no pulse.


148 posted on 05/30/2020 5:26:44 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NautiNurse

I am still waiting for you to supply some actual facts. I shall wait.


149 posted on 05/30/2020 5:26:51 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: TexasGator

“””””’Facts:

1. Cops used an unauthorized tactic which. likely contributed to the death.””””””””””””””””””””

That is an opinion.


150 posted on 05/30/2020 5:28:25 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

Me: 1. Cops used an unauthorized tactic which. likely contributed to the death.””””””””””””””””””””

You: That is an opinion.

The are facts! Your. opinion is not backed by facts.


151 posted on 05/30/2020 5:34:39 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: basalt

I WAS an officer of the court.


152 posted on 05/30/2020 5:34:49 PM PDT by Thud
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To: shelterguy

At least you are accepting these. facts!

2. Cops maintained the unauthorized pressure after subject became unconscious.

3. Cops maintained pressure even. after determining subject had no pulse.

4. Cops gave no medical assistance to the restrained subject, unconscious with no pulse.


153 posted on 05/30/2020 5:36:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: shelterguy
You aren't being honest in this discussion thread.

I have provided plenty of facts. You choose to ignore. If you honestly suspect drug OD as the cause of death, tell us why the knee-on-neck cop and his rogue colleagues didn't render medical aid when the man was clearly in medical extremis. You also chose to ignore my question: What are the odds the MPD cops' medical aid kit carries Naloxone to treat potential opioid OD since 2018?

154 posted on 05/30/2020 5:37:21 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Don't be a pinhead.)
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To: TexasGator

“”””””””””

Me: 1. Cops used an unauthorized tactic which. likely contributed to the death.””””””””””””””””””””

You: That is an opinion.

The are facts! Your. opinion is not backed by facts.
“”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””

It is an opinion.

LIKELY contributed to death.

So maybe it did. That’s an opinion. How much did it contribute? Would he have died from the actual cause of death anyway?

Medical experts at a trial will argue about LIKELY endlessly. It did or it didn’t. What would the jury say to that?

I don’t know what killed him. At this point nobody does.


155 posted on 05/30/2020 5:46:53 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

“I don’t know what killed him. At this point nobody does.”

At this point we know:

1. Cops used an unauthorized tactic which. likely contributed to the death.

2. Cops maintained the unauthorized pressure after subject became unconscious.

3. Cops maintained pressure even. after determining subject had no pulse.

4. Cops gave no medical assistance to the restrained subject, unconscious with no pulse.


156 posted on 05/30/2020 5:50:54 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: shelterguy

“I don’t know what killed him. At this point nobody does.”

At this point we know:

1. Cops used an unauthorized tactic which. likely contributed to the death.

2. Cops maintained the unauthorized pressure after subject became unconscious.

3. Cops maintained pressure even. after determining subject had no pulse.

4. Cops gave no medical assistance to the restrained subject, unconscious with no pulse.


157 posted on 05/30/2020 5:50:55 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: shelterguy

” What would the jury say to that?”

Guilty!


158 posted on 05/30/2020 5:54:40 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: sojc

youll hear from his lawyers..they are waiting for toxicology to come back...if theres heroin or cocaine there, this case is a wrap....never get a conviction....


159 posted on 05/30/2020 5:55:00 PM PDT by basalt
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To: shelterguy

“Would he have died from the actual cause of death anyway?”

You remind me of Cuomo talking about. the COVID deaths.

They are old. That is what old people do. Old people. die.


160 posted on 05/30/2020 5:59:22 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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