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In reality more than two thirds of the unemployed are better off not working; even those receiving less income are receiving the value (to them) of their time, hours lost commuting, personal expenses for going to work, etc.

IMO this was deliberate by democrats, overcompensating their constituents for the shutdowns to normalize not working but still being looked after. Now, ending the 'temporary' extra welfare is 'impoverishing people and jeopardizing their health', and the door is wide open for their representatives to demand formerly radical policies like UBI.

1 posted on 05/27/2020 5:22:40 PM PDT by fluorescence
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The $600 extra was by design by the DEMs ($15/hr times 40 hours), and the Republicans and Trump went along with it.


2 posted on 05/27/2020 5:25:38 PM PDT by CatOwner
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Only a liberal would think in those terms and only a liberal news service would peddle such a dead end approach to life.


3 posted on 05/27/2020 5:27:06 PM PDT by iontheball
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Benefit Replacement Rates for Common Occupations, from the University of Chicago

US Unemployment Insurance Replacement Rates During the Pandemic

4 posted on 05/27/2020 5:27:38 PM PDT by fluorescence
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The neo-Bsheviks in DC and ‘Rat run states aee chortling.


5 posted on 05/27/2020 5:27:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Actual virtues like ambition and self-improvement having been beaten out of people in public schools ...


6 posted on 05/27/2020 5:28:25 PM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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UBI is bad enough, but it won't stop there.

The 'U' is supposed to mean universal, i.e. everyone gets the same amount to do with as they please no questions asked.

What will happen over time is that the Dems will require tax forms so they only give the UBI to those who earn below a certain amount or have below a certain amount of 'wealth', e.g. stocks, bonds, etc.

Then they will put all sorts of constraints on it which will be poorly enforced but still annoying.

Then they will do a bad job at deciding who gets the UBI. Dead people will be getting some. Others will be double or triple dipping. Nigerians will get their share, etc.

Oh and don't forget that UBI must go to illegals ...er… undocumented folks as well.

7 posted on 05/27/2020 5:29:41 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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"... would also mean a cut in pay for Morse. "

It's not a cut in "pay" - it's an employment benefit.

You have to go back to work. If it means wearing full PPE, you have to go back. Or leave that job and get a job that you feel safer. But the Federal government is not obligated to provide you with *more* money than you were making.

8 posted on 05/27/2020 5:29:47 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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“”””””In many cases, workers who turn down a job offer from their old employer may lose their eligibility to collect unemployment insurance. “”””””””””

This. If your employer calls you back or if you have an opportunity to get a job similar to the one you had and you decline it so you can collect unemployment then your benefits can be denied.

It is UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE not welfare.


10 posted on 05/27/2020 5:31:23 PM PDT by shelterguy
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I guessed we have a whole nation of bipartisan a**holes who never heard of the concept of delay of gratification. Suck it up now and let nature take the hindmost... until its me (whine).


11 posted on 05/27/2020 5:32:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized)
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Almost like a plan, huh?


13 posted on 05/27/2020 5:35:18 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Funny how many (like Cocaine Mitch) are furious over Americans getting $600 a week, but yet never had a problem with Bush and Obama blowing $6 trillion on endless, stupid wars.


16 posted on 05/27/2020 5:37:21 PM PDT by montag813
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This plays into the RATs hands by keeping people on the dole. It will also keep the economy slowed down because you have more people on the cart rather than pulling it. Of course the states with the most generous hand-outs are going to plead for federal bail-outs further suppressing the economy if they get it.


19 posted on 05/27/2020 5:42:05 PM PDT by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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Kinda like when they bailed out the banks with TARP right? So that was okay but to all the citizen who had their life distrupted helping them out oh shit now its UBI and Marxism. Are bailouts bad? Probably at least the citizens got some of the money this time.

So I'm really not concerned as this won't last very long. American's on average work like 2 weeks longer than most any other people on the planet - people need to chill, but most everyone is stir crazy and wants to get back to work, perhaps employers will have to pay workers a bit more - oh no.

22 posted on 05/27/2020 5:55:06 PM PDT by datricker (Cut Taxes Repeal ACA Deport DACA - Americans First, Build the Wall, Lock her up MAGA!)
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Sec. Manchin said this last week that unemployment benefits will be stopped for those employees who refuse to go back to work when their jobs open back up after their employers re-open their businesses after the pandemic.

The logistics of that could be a little difficult but that is what he said.

25 posted on 05/27/2020 6:18:36 PM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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Most pathetic headline ever, maybe.


26 posted on 05/27/2020 6:20:23 PM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped.)
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Still, Vavra and his University of Chicago colleagues say the flat, $600-a-week benefit does create questions of fairness, especially when other low-income workers are still on the job doing essential work.

Yes. It is never fair when you take the money out of one man’s pocket to put it in the pocket of another man.

And it is very damaging to the economy when you give a man an incentive NOT TO WORK!

Idiots.

28 posted on 05/27/2020 7:07:35 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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In many cases, workers who turn down a job offer from their old employer may lose their eligibility to collect unemployment insurance.

That's a chance Sonya Chartier and her husband are willing to take. They both opted not to return to work at a Wisconsin furniture store where customers are not required to wear masks. Chartier says she worries about infecting her mother-in-law, who lives with the couple.

Having seen how the bureaucracy works it is very likely that they will continue to receive their state unemployment benefits even though they have turned down work.

But they had better save those benefits, not spend them.

There is a chance that their failure to accept work will eventually be discovered and the state will want that money back. And government is never happy to wait for money that was accepted in bad faith.

The State will be making threats of prosecution and jail. And those threats will not be empty threats.

29 posted on 05/27/2020 7:15:41 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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"It's hard to think about going back to work in this pandemic and getting paid less than we are right now when we're safe and at home in quarantine."

The solution to that paradox, is that, when the places of work open up, the government checks stop flowing, and those who still want to remain at home, will lose both: their jobs and the government checks.

Getting back to normal does not mean staying at home and taking advantage of the temporary systems.
30 posted on 05/27/2020 7:29:25 PM PDT by adorno
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L8r


31 posted on 05/27/2020 8:53:45 PM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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Government making living in poverty easy. Sickening. People have no pride. Every last pathetic person who refuses to go back to work shouldn’t get a dime.


32 posted on 05/27/2020 9:59:53 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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