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A Timely and Up to Date Discussion of the Military Semi Automatic Rifle and its place in Modern Warfare
Internet Archive ^ | September 1950 | American Rifleman

Posted on 05/08/2020 3:45:24 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper


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TOPICS: Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: banglist; warfare
I would like to hear comments and observations about the subject material of highlighted article, considering the hysterical nonsense from the media these days about these types of firearms. There are other articles of interest at this link as well.
1 posted on 05/08/2020 3:45:24 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper
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To: OttawaFreeper

Pardon me, this is the better link to the article:

https://archive.org/details/sept-1950-28.


2 posted on 05/08/2020 3:47:53 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: OttawaFreeper

There have been some really good ones.


3 posted on 05/08/2020 3:48:49 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: OttawaFreeper
Never having served in,or near,combat I can't comment with any credibility about military weapons "in the field".I did my BCT (Army recruit training) in 1969 and during that training we fired (and qualified with) both the M-14 and the M-16.IIRC the M-14 went back to around the Korean War while the M-16 was developed in the early 60s.

BCT was the first time I had ever held a firearm (I'm a child of the suburbs) and I qualified with a higher score than I achieved with the M-16.

The M-16 was noticeably lighter than the M-14 and it's easy for me to imagine that,as a result,it might have been better in the chaos of combat than the M-14.

That's all I have to contribute.

However,if your curiosity is fueled by the recent announcement of your Prime Minister I'd suggest you google "Hubert Humphrey" and "2nd Amendment".You'll find a quote of his from many years ago expressing strong,clear support for gun ownership and a surprisingly cogent explanation for that support.

Don't know if that quote would resonate with Canadians who would oppose any additional firearms restrictions.

4 posted on 05/08/2020 4:08:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Remember the old adage that got this nonsense started. Before that they ONLY wanted to register and ban handguns. “Rifles will not be affected!”

“ Assault weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons —anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun— can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. —Josh Sugarmann, 1988

Remember, if they can get a ban on any type of firearm, rest assured they will use that ban as a basis to go after their real target from 1962-1988, HANDGUNS.


5 posted on 05/08/2020 4:10:12 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: OttawaFreeper
Found the quote from Hubert Humphrey who,I suspect you know,was a Vice President and a Democrat:

"Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms. [...] the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."

6 posted on 05/08/2020 4:17:34 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: OttawaFreeper

To stop the hysteria you first have to convince liberals that semiautomatic does not mean automatic. They really don’t know the difference.


7 posted on 05/08/2020 4:19:03 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes, and while not wanting to get too far off topic, I recall reading about how Humphrey speared the effort to get rid of socialists and other far left people who tried to hijack the Democrats way back when.


8 posted on 05/08/2020 4:20:58 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: Gay State Conservative
My ROTC unit had hand me down M-14's, so that's what I first fired. On active duty I qualified with the M-16, but being in Armor my personal weapon was the .45 pistol. I got the impression the M-14 would deliver more of a punch but the M-16 was lighter and easier to use.

But my favorite weapon was the main gun. :-))

9 posted on 05/08/2020 4:23:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: OttawaFreeper

HHH
just didn’t want to rush.
Wasn’t he a leader in the ADA ?


10 posted on 05/08/2020 4:32:04 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: OttawaFreeper
Bought my first M-1 Garand last year - nice rifle.
Heavy, but it can put a LOT of 30-06 rounds downrange in a hurry.
11 posted on 05/08/2020 4:47:01 PM PDT by Psalm 73
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Sometimes weight is an advantage. I have heard a few stories of people buying high powered chamberings in Ruger No. 1 rifles (single shot) and then selling them because of too much recoil.


12 posted on 05/08/2020 5:30:39 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Psalm 73

Get off my lawn


13 posted on 05/08/2020 5:53:55 PM PDT by Oldexpat (Stand strong VA.)
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To: colorado tanker

Convince a Liberal,,
.
I think we are past
That Point.


14 posted on 05/08/2020 9:54:40 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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To: Psalm 73
Check out the Key-Tec SU-16C or and of the SU-16 series rifles. I think you'll like it.
15 posted on 05/08/2020 10:03:46 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Several studies have shown that it takes thousands of rounds to kill one enemy soldier—unless the rifle is handled by a sniper with a specific goal of “One round, one kill”

Why the difference? One can speculate that despite the careful training for soldiers to carefully fire an aimed round at a specific target, the ability to “spray and pray” with full auto overtakes training in a battle situation, especially where no clear targets are visible.

Makes you wonder how much more lethal our armies would be if we gave our trained marksmen only a few rounds at a time to protect themselves. However, the strict control of ammo seems to have contributed to the British losing the Battle of Islandywayo in the Zulu war in 1879.


16 posted on 05/09/2020 8:12:35 AM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" means to me)
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