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Flubros and Flubras! Day 50 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 8 May 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 05/08/2020 4:59:19 AM PDT by impimp

It’s just the flu, bro.

Excess deaths is the total number of dead over a time period minus the normal expected number of dead for that time of year based on historical data. There are some Fearpers who post data showing that there are excess deaths in NYC and in Italy. There have been excess deaths due to CV - but these excess deaths still don’t make it rise beyond a flu season. Note that the CV deaths stats from CDC are not relevant to this - what is relevant is how many people are dying of all causes compared to how many normally die.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The CDC data is on a lag and the disclaimers say it is possible for some deaths to be 8 weeks late to make it to the data. Watching these numbers for almost 8 weeks it seems that changes to the data beyond 3 weeks appear to be immaterial. The normal number of deaths, according to the CDC, is approximately 57k per week in the USA over the time period. The maximum number of USA deaths according to worldometer occurred the week before April 11 (so we are on the downswing) - that week had 13k excess deaths. These are the numbers to watch over the coming weeks but there is still nothing to indicate that the number of excess deaths will go beyond influenza levels.

In other news...why did Governor Abbott feign outrage when a Democrat judge made a ruling that put a hairdresser in jail for refusing to close because she wanted to feed her kids? Democrats will usually rule/judge in a way that we don’t like so why pass the stupid lockdown rule to begin with? The lockdown rule was always going to be interpreted by Dems in a way that is tyrannical. Abbott should be held responsible for his stupid executive order.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: antivaxxers; coronacold; coronavirus; fearpers
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To: Mom MD

or some nut on our side.....


21 posted on 05/08/2020 5:28:28 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Kozak
maybe the synagogues will be open in September for the high holy days

The synagogues and churches could be open if the people chose them to be.

The government doesn't tell me where I can and can't go, and I recommend you don't let them either.

I'm A Freeborn Man In The USA


22 posted on 05/08/2020 5:30:07 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: impimp

Still averaging 30,000 new cases a day and averaging over 2,000 deaths a day. 76,942 deaths to date.

With the new cases averaging 30,000 a day the 2k+ death rate will continue with no relief.

With social distancing measures being relaxed as they are now in many states the average new case rates will climb, as will the deaths.

The month of April saw over 65k deaths and it’s likely May will see more than that, possibly 50% more and above.

As the daily new cases mount and increase the death rate will also climb although lag a few weeks behind the new case increases.

It is my prediction that the US death rate will increase to near 100k per month until November as winter starts and then all bets are off.

As much as we think we have this under control we do not, it’s only going to get worse before it gets better, it will be years before this over, and that really sux.


23 posted on 05/08/2020 5:32:22 AM PDT by GulfMan
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To: GulfMan

Unemployment 14.7%

We have done a fine job destroying ourselves


24 posted on 05/08/2020 5:33:48 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: bagster

Ha! Very good, ye of little sleep!


25 posted on 05/08/2020 5:36:12 AM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! The DNC virus is much deadlier than the Wu Han Flu.)
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To: GulfMan

Numbers are totally manipulated with retrospective numbers added over the last week to keep the numbers high. Deaths thst happened weeks ago attributed to today. Get a grip. The data is now being manipulated


26 posted on 05/08/2020 5:36:13 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: GulfMan

Numbers are totally manipulated with retrospective numbers added over the last week to keep the numbers high. Deaths thst happened weeks ago attributed to today. Get a grip. The data is now being manipulated


27 posted on 05/08/2020 5:36:15 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

I’m not saying we haven’t done a lot of damage, I’m just saying there is no way out of this, it’s happening, it’s going to happen, it’s going to get worse before it gets better. And winter will be a living hell as this mixes with the seasonal flu and people freak out and the likely-hood that COVID-19 spreads much more rapidly here in the US during winter.

For those that think “we’re coming out of this” it’s going to be a very long and disappointing year or two ...


28 posted on 05/08/2020 5:36:52 AM PDT by GulfMan
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To: bagster

:: Which one is you, fearbro? ::

He’s undoubtedly the one on the left. Of course!


29 posted on 05/08/2020 5:38:10 AM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! The DNC virus is much deadlier than the Wu Han Flu.)
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To: GulfMan

I just posted this on another thread.

I know you just don’t like any rational data but the 7% number is just completely incorrect. You continue to show your lack of ability to do basic math or your willingness to be a sheeple and quote dubious or incorrect numbers

1. The average age of death in the United States is 75
2. The average age of death in PA is 79.6 which is exactly the national average
3. The German data are good and in consensus with increasing points of epidemiological data

Are you of the belief that we should live under totalitarian control and an economy operated by Fauci and Brix. Are you a patriot or a pansy. It’s crush time. Do you believe in freedom or are you going to sell your soul and the birthright of freedom for the most overhyped condition in the history of medicine


30 posted on 05/08/2020 5:38:14 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: impimp

I’m looking into “Obamagate”. DC’s war against America which the Wuhan Scam is the latest battle.


31 posted on 05/08/2020 5:38:36 AM PDT by SanchoP (The sheeple cower as the HOAX continues.)
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To: gas_dr

the numbers are here, scroll down the charts, my math is just fine.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


32 posted on 05/08/2020 5:39:26 AM PDT by GulfMan
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To: Kozak

71,451 have died in the US, from pneumonia only, since Feburary 1. Those are deaths not counted as covid.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


33 posted on 05/08/2020 5:40:06 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: GulfMan

Well see my above post. It’s here — the virus — and will be gone with summer

Our fear is what we are endangered by. So much for “we have nothing to fear but fear itself”. If you want to resign to this fate you are on the wrong side, my brother.


34 posted on 05/08/2020 5:40:11 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

States basking in the sun like Florida have just as many cases. The sunshine thing is BS, the seasonal Flu is just as bad in warm sunny states as it is in the north.

Also, I never stated anything about whether we should or should not do social distancing, I merely said we are nowhere near the end of this and it’s going to still get worse before it gets better.


35 posted on 05/08/2020 5:42:55 AM PDT by GulfMan
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To: GulfMan

I follow each website. Did you know the source data for that website includes possible cases. Did you know that they report deaths that are retrospective several weeks on the day the website detects it. It’s why the death rate is not dropping. Go to the New York department of health site. You will see that the curves are falling quickly.

You have fallen into taking the website to be absolutely true. Sadly you have not researched the data. Go to the primary sources. Much different picture

Come to my hospital. A ghost town. Then tell me thst we are still at peak even the hand wringing governors say they are on downhill. Clearly we have no critical eye to evaluate data and reality anymore.


36 posted on 05/08/2020 5:44:13 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

“Real” death impact numbers won’t be known for a year. Counting deaths is a waste of time, as this was never going to kill that many people.

As long as there are beds in the ICU, get out and spread it around. But anyone thinking the “recovery” will be V shaped is delusional. The mechanics of the economy are wrecked because the international supply chain is ruined. THAT will leave a mark.

I would just be slightly cautious about declaring “Mission Accomplished” until we see what happens in the fall.


37 posted on 05/08/2020 5:44:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: gas_dr
I had my first day off yesterday in 58 days.

you are a warrior
my hat is off to you

38 posted on 05/08/2020 5:44:45 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: GulfMan

Obviously, your predictions are higher than mine. Have you looked at Italy on worldometer? Don’t you see that this drops off?


39 posted on 05/08/2020 5:47:15 AM PDT by impimp
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To: GulfMan

So you’re saying that Covid-19 is a totally unprecedented virus, exhibiting mortality rates and sustainability not seen in a hundred years, when medical science was primitive compared to today and a global war was on? That it will behave unlike the Hong Kong Flu, Swine Flu, MERS, on H1N1 or any other virus we have lived through?


40 posted on 05/08/2020 5:47:51 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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