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Drew Carey on why he forgave ex-fiancée Amie Harwick's alleged murderer...
Fox News ^ | April 17, 2020 | Julius Young

Posted on 04/26/2020 7:38:07 AM PDT by L.A.Justice

Drew Carey has mastered the art of forgiveness.

The funnyman, 61, chatted it up with the hosting cast of “The Talk” on Wednesday, in an interview that aired on Friday, and admitted that as much as he has forgiven Gareth Pursehouse, the man who is charged with murdering his ex-fiancée Amie Harwick, the toll her murder has had on him has been difficult to understand.

“After Amie’s murder, I took a week off. Really, I couldn’t function,” Carey said, adding that upon his return to the show for “Kids Week,” he had an opportunity to speak with high school students about the tragedy.

“I talked to them about how I forgave the guy who murdered Amie,” he said. “I did it as soon as I could, right away because he was mentally ill, the guy was abused when he was a kid and, you know, you have to be able to forgive people like that.”

“You know, I wish he never did it, or I wish he never met her,” Carey added. “When you forgive people, that doesn’t mean you have to hang out with them and be their friend.”

The “Price Is Right” host said speaking with those students was more about spreading the message of forgiveness.

“It’s important for high school kids to hear and people in general to hear. It would be so easy to carry around … every day think about revenge, which is not coming,” Carey added. “There’s nothing that’ll make up for what he did … I really try to practice instant forgiveness and unconditional love, the closest you can get to that, the better you are and I fall short all the time.”

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To: L.A.Justice

Drew Carey has mastered the art of forgiveness.
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I don’t believe in “forgiveness” except when it follows retribution.


21 posted on 04/26/2020 8:14:54 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

But it does release your heart from hatred.
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In some circumstances hatred becomes a virtue.


22 posted on 04/26/2020 8:17:04 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: L.A.Justice

Funny, I was always taught that one could not grant forgiveness unless and until the perpetrator had asked for it.


23 posted on 04/26/2020 8:17:52 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: L.A.Justice

Has the perpetrator repented and asked for forgiveness? If not, “forgiveness” is a non-transaction. Even God does not forgive unless/until the sinner repents in sincere and grieving faith. Otherwise The Mighty God’s wrath toward the sinner remains and smoulders in righteous agonizing fire throughout eternity. There is a point of no return for the perpetrator.


24 posted on 04/26/2020 8:19:06 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: CodeToad

You are absolutely right. This is our Achilles heel as a society; we do not cull out the monsters in our midst.


25 posted on 04/26/2020 8:20:20 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SunkenCiv

It isn’t mental illness, it’s murder one. The SOB should hang.
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Well and truly said and every word of it. I am categorically opposed to any consideration of motive in the adjudication of capital murder cases, and I’m fully supportive of the death penalty in such cases, no exceptions and no appeals.


26 posted on 04/26/2020 8:21:31 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Listen to Dennis Prager on the subject. He posits that one must first ask for forgiveness (show contrition) before it can be granted. Perhaps the killer is so mentally ill that he’s incapable, but that’s usually not the case.


27 posted on 04/26/2020 8:21:36 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: CodeToad

I don’t forgive predators. We need to cull predators from society. They cannot be left to harm us, regardless of their reason.
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Well and truly said and every word of it.


28 posted on 04/26/2020 8:22:56 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

I agree. A perpetrator must show some form of contrition to be forgiven. Without punishment, what is the point of the justice system?


29 posted on 04/26/2020 8:23:56 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Salvavida

You can forgive a person simply because he is an image bearer of God
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You can but you’d be wrong: Such monsters are actually image bearers of SATAN!


30 posted on 04/26/2020 8:25:01 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: wastoute
"I have had Christian friends who believed “Forgiveness” lacking repentance and contrition are meaningless. My Theology isn’t that advanced. Not my pay grade."

Christ paid the debt for all sin on the cross. This is not a "get out of jail free" card for people to do as they please. In order to benefit from Christ's sacrifice, one must embrace it and accept it, which entails repentence and contrition. In my mind, this does not mean that Christ's forgiveness is "conditional." He laid down his life and made it available to all. The only condition put on it is by the individual who chooses to accept or reject it.

A person forgiving another person is a somewhat different matter in my mind. The willingness to forgive another, regardless of their contrition, is good for the soul, and in our limited human capacity, perhaps as best as we may imitate Christ. Our ability to forgive is for the benefit of the aggrieved.

I find it significant that in the Lord's prayer, we pray, "Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." In the words of Christ himself, our very desire to be forgiven and to offer forgiveness are on par with our daily bread. In other words, they are essential to our health and well being.

31 posted on 04/26/2020 8:26:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: L.A.Justice

So if you are mistreated as a child, it’s okay to murder somebody later on in life... I don’t think so Drew.

He’s obviously a man who believes in God and while forgiving is good and we should forgive those who trespass against us, we can do it just as easily after their dead, as we can while they’re alive.

An eye for an eye... A life for a life.


32 posted on 04/26/2020 8:27:46 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Amberdawn

One can certainly forgive a transgressor without the transgressor’s repentance. In the Lord’s prayer we see the passage, “forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.” That is, the Lord will show us mercy according to how we show mercy to others. It is His way.


33 posted on 04/26/2020 8:29:23 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Chewbarkah

Unfortunately all this abusive childhood, boohoo forgiveness crap results in toleration of murder and hideous crimes, lighter sentences, and more victims. Most criminals are mentally ill, and got that way somehow. Individuals likely benefit from letting go rather than burning themselves up with anger that can never be resolved. It’s “society’s” job to identify evil and destroy it.
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Well and truly said and every word of it, especially your last sentence. And it is society’s failure to do so that is to blame for the torture and the murder of countless innocent people. Are any politicians listening to the cries of the innocent? Obviously NOT!


34 posted on 04/26/2020 8:32:41 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I appreciate that, but it seems to me that in order to truly be forgiven, one must ask for forgiveness-either from GOD or the person one has sinned against. If the sinner is unrepentant for his crimes, how will GOD forgive him, much less a mere mortal?


35 posted on 04/26/2020 8:33:56 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Rebelbase

In Cary’s case the perp is mentally ill (if true)
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Completely irrelevant.


36 posted on 04/26/2020 8:34:33 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“Yeah, that Jesus”

Let me know when you become Jesus, and I’ll follow your advice.


37 posted on 04/26/2020 8:40:42 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: newfreep

Have they repented? You have to forgive, then.

All else is “letting go.”


38 posted on 04/26/2020 8:45:25 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: imardmd1

I agree.

This is the best we can gather from Scripture.


39 posted on 04/26/2020 8:47:31 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Amberdawn

That is between the sinner and God.

Note that forgiveness can be a one way street. In the Old Testament Jews were told that a contrite transgressor could ask their victim for forgiveness three times and if the victim refuses all three times then the transgressor need not ask further. The sin would not be held against him by God. God would hold it against the victim for refusing to forgive the contrite transgressor. (This is the other side of the coin from Drew Carey’s case.)

So the sinner can ask for forgiveness and be refused by the victim. God holds that refusal to forgive against the victim.

The victim can forgive the sinner without repentance or contrition on the part of the sinner. God appreciates what the victim did, still holds the transgression against the sinner.

Or the contrite sinner can ask for forgiveness and forgiveness can be granted by the victim. That is the model that God wants.

Note that the question of judicial punishment is completely separate from this.


40 posted on 04/26/2020 8:47:51 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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