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Organizer of California stay-at-home protest could face criminal charges
Los Angeles Times ^ | April 23 2020 | ANDREW J. CAMPA, DAVID HERNANDEZ

Posted on 04/23/2020 6:34:52 PM PDT by rintintin

In San Diego, a woman who police say organized a weekend protest could face a misdemeanor charge for allegedly encouraging others to violate stay-at-home orders meant to slow the spread of COVID-19.

A police spokesman said the department forwarded the case to the San Diego City Attorney’s Office for review on Tuesday. The move comes after some, including civil rights activists, questioned why police did not cite protesters last weekend for ignoring the orders.

A misdemeanor conviction could result in up to six months of jail time and fines of up to $1,000. As of Monday, the City Attorney’s Office had not received any cases related to violations of the orders, a spokeswoman said. The office declined to answer questions Wednesday about whether the case had been received or charges had been filed.

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To: Leaning Right

..Sorry, pal. That’s not possible here. Notice that they want to charge her with a crime carrying six months of jail time. The US Supreme Court has ruled that you can request a jury trial only if you are charged with a crime carrying more than six months of jail time...

sorry pal california constitution provides for right to jury trial in all criminal misdemeanor or felony trials (not infractions)


21 posted on 04/23/2020 7:17:09 PM PDT by rolling_stone (tshf)
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To: rintintin

The appropriate response is another much bigger protest.


22 posted on 04/23/2020 7:21:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: rintintin

President Trump sets them up and liberals take the bait.... every time! The expose themselves as the totalitarians they are AND the voters see it.


23 posted on 04/23/2020 7:23:41 PM PDT by upsdriver (WWG1WGA BRING ON THE STORM!)
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To: lapsus calami

“There is no legal mechanism that allows for the suspension of civil rights, not even under martial law. “

Correct. Our civil rights persist through any and every domestic situation.

However, their adjudication often must wait until the “emergency” is over and the courts reconvene. Not unlike the brutal invasion of Dixie.


24 posted on 04/23/2020 7:24:19 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: rintintin

You guys are really giving the other good guys with a badge a bad reputation.

JBT


25 posted on 04/23/2020 7:34:28 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: wastedyears

4 out of 5 anyway...


26 posted on 04/23/2020 7:35:44 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: rintintin
Nope. State criminal prosecution for protests is banned by the 1st and 14th Amendments. It is not only a violation of free speech, but also of the right to petition for redress of grievances. Only a proclamation of martial law by a state governor allows prohibition of petitions for the redress of grievances.

And the 14th Amendment was enacted AFTER the Civil War, so no judicial decisions prior to enactment of the 14th Amendment are controlling. AFAIK, there aren't any federal court rulings since the 14th Amendment's enactment on whether emergencies such as epidemics can be used by state or local governments to justify prohibition of petitions for redress of grievances.

So, at this time, the only justification for such a prohition that I know of is a proclamatiion of martial law by a state governor, though the latter can do so retroactively to justify actions taken by local authorities during the heat of a new emergency before a governor has time to consider the matter.

27 posted on 04/23/2020 7:40:25 PM PDT by Thud
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To: TigersEye

I don’t know what people are saying in San Diego, but in Orange County people are this close to just ignoring the stupidest “shutdown” theater on their own.

They’ll wear masks, probably, and social distance for sure, but people are going to need to go back work. This is simply unsustainable, regardless of the public health risks.


28 posted on 04/23/2020 7:41:40 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your dut!!y in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: rintintin

I’m just trying to see how this would fly in the courts. You’re punished for organizing a protest against a stay at home order by enforcing the stay at home order?

It’s not martial law, no one has suspended the constitution, and effectively it’s a 24 hour a day never ending curfew with no defined standards for when it ends. And issued by the unelected ‘county health officer’? They’re just making stuff up as they go along, and one day it will be considered by the federal courts and probably be found to be wanting.

Since the law presently offers freedom of movement for ‘essential tasks’, then I’d say quite clearly that exerting the most basic human right of protest against the government is absolutely an essential task and requires no permission from the government to do.


29 posted on 04/23/2020 7:46:15 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: absalom01

That it is!


30 posted on 04/23/2020 7:47:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: rintintin

What SD Municipal Code did she violate?


31 posted on 04/23/2020 7:58:37 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: rintintin
Remember all the arrests of the "Ferguson protestors" who blocked freeways around the country five years ago inconveniencing tens of thousands of cars and costing hundreds of thousands of hours of lost productivity? Atlanta, LA, San Diego and many other cities...

Nope. Neither do I.

32 posted on 04/23/2020 8:04:37 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: clamper1797
...my friend had just left and saw the Sheriff pull up looking for him

That's one of those rare instances where legally wearing your mask could help you out!

33 posted on 04/23/2020 8:07:26 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: rolling_stone

> california constitution provides for right to jury trial in all criminal misdemeanor or felony trials <

Wow. If that’s true then California is actually doing something that is right and just.

But I wonder if it can be ignored. After all, the US Constitution also provides for right to a jury trial in all criminal misdemeanor or felony trials. And that is routinely ignored. It can be ignored because the Supreme Court says it can be ignored.

That’s how they got Sheriff Joe Arpaio convicted. The Feds charged him with a crime carrying a maximum six month sentence. Arpaio asked for a jury trial. It was refused. He was convicted by a judge.


34 posted on 04/23/2020 8:18:19 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: rintintin

This woman faces possible criminal charges for organizing a 1st Amendment protected protest, yet California harbors illegal aliens as a sanctuary state. Yup, makes sense to me. //sarc//


35 posted on 04/23/2020 8:22:13 PM PDT by BAW (I support Donald Trump.)
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To: rintintin

San Diego has become a Marxist shithole. Too bad. Heard it was once a nice conservative place.


36 posted on 04/23/2020 10:51:15 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ptsal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXTUf7pS-jU


37 posted on 04/24/2020 12:12:14 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: TheBattman
Congress didn't.

California did.

Look up IT's constitution to see if a similar clause is found therein.

38 posted on 04/24/2020 4:44:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheBattman

That’s all well and good, but historically, this has been interpreted as applying to all governing bodies.


39 posted on 04/24/2020 9:36:56 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: clamper1797

California has been a Socialist S-hole in-the-making for a long time. This is absolutely not in any way suprising.


40 posted on 04/24/2020 9:38:22 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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