Posted on 04/22/2020 10:25:59 AM PDT by Ben Mugged
I'm about to say something a lot of people probably aren't going to be super comfortable with, but here goes...
A lot of people in my feed are starting to point out that the goals of lock downs seem to have shifted from "flattening the curve" - which was about making sure hospitals aren't overloaded - to a new goal of trying to prevent people from getting sick or dying from coronavirus.
I've definitely seen this trend, and it's a little disconcerting, because while the previous goal was probably misguided (for a number of reasons that I'll be happy to go into more detail on in the comments), the new goal is literally impossible.
Viruses replicate and spread. That's pretty much all they do.
That's why they've been around for billions of years. Some theories suggest that viruses actually pre-date living cells.
They're not going away.
We're also not going to find a vaccine for this disease in the next few weeks, and possibly not ever. Even if we do, just like common colds and flus, the virus will mutate and change and it'll be a constant battle. Moreover, vaccines are nowhere near 100% effective. There is no way to stop people from getting a virus.
There just isn't. And the sooner people make peace with that, the better.
The reason that the health care capacity aspect of this matters is because even though we know there's no way to prevent everyone from dying of a virus, we don't want people who we *could have saved* to die because the goods & services needed to save them just weren't available.
We were in an economic war against scarcity (as we are on all things, all the time), not really a war against infections (which we can't actually control).
People hoped that lock downs would slow the spread enough to make sure scarcity of resources wasn't one of the reasons people died. Whether the lock downs can really be credited for that that or not, the fact is, in most parts of the US and Europe, that wasn't a problem.
That means that the vast majority of those who have died were not preventable deaths.
In many cases, the health care system went to great lengths to prevent their deaths, but due to a high concentration of the virus, poor immune systems, old age, severe comorbidity factors, or just... bad luck, these people died anyway.
We could not have stopped that.
If your argument for continuing lock downs is that we need to wait until we have perfectly effective vaccines and nobody dies of the disease anymore, then be prepared to be staying at home for the rest of your life.
You’re making too much sense, so you will soon be attacked for suggesting it.
That, FRiend, is the heart of the matter.
There has never and will never be a vaccine for this virus
Very simply you cannot vaccinate against viruses
That being said- the medical for Americal government media establishment is Doing such a good job of scaring everybody that they’re going to come up with some kind of bull crap shot that they’re going to get everybody lined up for a hundred bucks to poison themselves
There has never and will never be a vaccine for this virus
Very simply you cannot vaccinate against viruses
That being said- the medical for Americal government media establishment is Doing such a good job of scaring everybody that they’re going to come up with some kind of bull crap shot that they’re going to get everybody lined up for a hundred bucks to poison themselves
Well stated.
Excellent post.
What are smallpox, polio, and measles? Viruses, and we have made effective vaccines.
Coronaviruses are more changeable, but there is likely to be a vaccine at some point.
Ben, I take it you wrote this, good job!
This has been puzzling me for weeks now. We have had a huge case of mission creep. Your arguments have me concluding that we are just delaying recovery by sheltering in place.
Is this going to be a yearly thing?
Mock them.
It will force them to become a better person.
Predict the obvious consequences to them financially, and then when it happens harp on it relentlessly.
Or get better friends.
Bump
He wasn't the first freeper to make that statement about viruses without thinking. They are many more to add to your list, among them HPV, ebola, rabies, and hepatitis.
That said, I can't think of any coronavirus that had an effective vaccine developed for. SARS disappeared before a vaccine could be tested. Plus, there haven't been too many different coronaviruses that infect humans.
Take away the check, and they'll simmer for two or three weeks until they realize that they're at risk of going hungry and losing their stuff, too.
I think there are four mild coronaviruses that cause colds.
It's highlighted anti-viral transmission education and also highlighted common American co-morbidity problems, some of which can be mitigated by closer attention to personal health routines.
We've examined daily vitamin regimens, and found out that our Media, many of our politicians and a fair number of our health care professionals would actually see us die to maintain their power [the lying smears and blatant propaganda against the HCQ treatment regimen].
However, many of the sheep quacking for continued lockdowns won't mention that they're getting a guaranteed check in the mail.
They need to be called out, and told publicly to STFU.
Full disclosure: I'm getting a guaranteed check in the mail. For now.
Time to get back to work.
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