just turned on Mark Levin. he has Dr. John Ioannidis from Stanford with him! wonderful.
Dr. Ioannidis said in Italy 99% of Covid deaths involved comorbidities, and there is now debate how many would have died anyway within a few days, etc.
enough of the hysteria.
Dr. Ioannidis said we should re-open soon.
Levin just asked Dr. Ioannidis about death certificates stating covid when it isn’t the known cause.
Dr. Ioannidis is concerned. says it will take time to investigate, but he says deaths are over-stated.
main message to end. re-open the economy.
I just caught the tail end of first guest on Fox show Life, Liberty & Levin, so did not get his name or profession but what the points he made make sense.
Point #1 : If we keep shutdown going until there are zero more infections, it could be a very long time, and by then the economy will have died for good and we will be dealing with a very long great depression #2.
Point #2 : Since data is clear that majority of people getting infected don’t even show any symptoms (asymptomatic).
And most healthy infected people recover with proper medical treatment. These type of people are mostly in our work force. If they are allowed to go back to work and mix with other people, majority will acquire the infection, but most will be asymptomatic. Those who get sick will get proper treatment and recover. The benefit is they acquire anti-bodies and thus acquire good immunity. We do not yet know how long this immunity will last but we do know that anti-bodies generally make you immune from the same virus for a significant period with all other infectious diseases.
Point #3 : As these asymptomatic workers infect others, the majority of those others will also be asymptomatic and acquire immunity. The sooner all workers acquire anti-bodies, the less covid-19 becomes a problem. Which then follows that after a few months the entire working population has anti-bodies.
Point #4 : That leaves out the most vulnerable such as very old, or with serious existing health issues. So now instead of having to monitor all infected people who test positive, the country has to monitor only those considered most vulnerable, which is a much smaller number and could be manageable, until an effective vaccine comes along.
Are you saying the lives of those with high blood pressure (annual death rate .49%), diabetes (annual death rate .24%), or asthma (annual death rate 0%) are expendable?
There is no debate about how many of these people would normally have died “in a few days”, the answer is almost none of them would have died in a few days. 125 million people in the US have these “co-morbidities”
Diabetes https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/diabetes.htm
Lung Disease use stats for asthma
Cancer https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/common.html
Immunodeficiency https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4820073/
Heart Disease https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190131084238.htm
Hypertension https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db289.htm
Asthma https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/estimated-prevalence-and-incidence-of-lung-dis-(1)/methodology
Kidney Disease https://www.cdc.gov/kidneydisease/publications-resources/2019-national-facts.html
Liver Disease https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/liver-disease.htm
Pop with disease
Diabetes 34,200,000
Lung Disease use asthma
Cancer 2,800,000
Immunodeficiency 165,000
Heart Disease 121,500,000
Hypertension 95,700,000
Asthma 22,500,000
Kidney Disease 37,000,000
Liver Disease 4,500,000
222,665,000
Annual deaths from disease
Diabetes 83,000
Lung Disease
Cancer 606,000
Immunodeficiency 0
Heart Disease 647,000
Hypertension 472,000
Asthma 338
Kidney Disease 47,000
Liver Disease 82,500
Annual Death Rate
Diabetes 0.24%
Lung Disease see asthma
Cancer 21.64%
Immunodeficiency
Heart Disease 0.53%
Hypertension 0.49%
Asthma 0.00%
Kidney Disease 0.13%
Liver Disease 1.83%