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To: grey_whiskers

“Who f*cking cares? Montagnier is still a Nobel winner talking about his own specialty.”

Everyone investigating the virus cares. In the world of medical research your claims have to be reproducible by others. No one gives a rat’s ass if you have a Nobel if your new “research” can’t be validated.

And right now no one but Luc Montagnier is saying that SARS-CoV-2 has HIV and/or Ebola inserted in it.

Researchers back in 2003 noted similarities between SARS and HIV-1. That isn’t new and it’s not a sign that the virus is manmade.


629 posted on 04/18/2020 12:18:00 AM PDT by Pelham (Mary McCord, Sally Yates and Michael Atkinson all belong in prison.)
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To: Pelham
Naaah, you're wrong. I'm just too lazy this morning to find the sequencing articles, but one of those hand-waving about pangolins admitted that the cleavage site isn't found in pangolin viruses, and that (what was it, six or so?) consecutive amino acids in it, were inserted from whole cloth.

The other thing is, the key amino acids in the ACE2 receptor, which are all non-consecutive, all changed from known bat coronaviruses to this one, to the "right" amino acid to enhance binding to the human ACE2, all at the same time.

Those *do* coincide with pangolin, IIRC. But when species exchange genetic material, don't they usually exchange continguous patches all at once, rather than enough for spot-mutations of amino acids which enhance infectivity? And the other thing is, I read this week that this virus binds to two other receptors -- one is (IIRC) CD147 and I don't remember the other. I don't remember any papers having examined which AA residues are responsible for that, nor comparing the genetic sequence for that to known bat coronaviruses or pangolins. I think it was the earlier Indian paper, or one shortly after it, that mentioned the filovirus (Ebola) insertions. But that got pulled immediately after intense political pressure -- for *obvious* reasons Panda-trying-to-get-away-with-bioweapon everyone-else-tiptoeing-away-from-nuclear-war. Nice try, troll-boi vermin.

637 posted on 04/18/2020 6:51:53 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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