Skip to comments.How much does the immune system play in Covid-19
Posted on 04/15/2020 12:15:46 PM PDT by Hurricane
An email from my son. Thought I needed to get FR comments and opinions.
Linky no worky.
“Thought I needed to get FR comments and opinions.”
How old is your son?
There can be no doubt that this is a good time to up your health game with some supplements, exercise, sunshine, turning that frowny upside downy etc. Without serious immune compromising conditions like obesity or diabetes or heart issues or others, immune system should be able to kick this thing's butt.
And if there are co-existing problems, then upping the immune system is all the more important.
Agree with him. Just listened to the first 3 minutes, will listen to the rest. I think this guys view is closest to my own. (not that I"m the origin of that view - many have it.)
My son is not involved in the video. Parts of the video are political but what is not political these days. This Dr. may be on to something.
This virus has HIV spliced into it and that takes down the immune system
But maybe not completely
Thats only part of its probably phased effect
Whoever designed it was experienced in immunology and gave this virus multiple ways to attack the host
“Without serious immune compromising conditions like obesity or diabetes or heart issues or others, immune system should be able to kick this thing’s butt. “
Our immune system is what kills us.
The novel coronavirus seems to hijack a body’s immune response so that the initial inflammatory phase is overstimulated. This is dangerous because it can damage critical organs, according to Lancaster.
“The lungs, the heart, those things can’t withstand a severe inflammatory response for too long,” she said.
For the lungs in particular, leakier blood can flood the air sacs with fluid, making it harder for a patient to breathe and get oxygen needed to keep other organs functioning.
The overproduction of these inflammatory signals, or cytokines, is sometimes referred to as a “cytokine storm...”
In patients with severe cases of COVID-19, these cytokine storms cause havoc and somehow block T and B cells from helping effectively.
“My son is not involved in the video. “
Just trying to get perspective. Wouldn’t want to talk down to an adult or over the head of a Child.
Vitamin deficiency was a big point the Dr. made.
Google Dr. SHIVA Ayyadurai who is the Dr. interviewed on the video.
I think he's dead on right.
What's going on doesn't necessarily require a total conspiracy between all the parties.
It's more that all the parties have interests ... China, the Left, the Pharmaceutical industry. It's more like 3 different winds that happen to blow in the same direction. To some extent they are probably in cahoots - people in Pharma or with WHO with the Chinese (big market!), The Left with China because they hate freedom, etc. etc. In other words, it's not necessarily that a bunch of people met in some room and planned things to be this way. (Although certainly the stomping on Hydrochloroquine is the result of pharma execs making calls to the media networks they give so much money to smear HQL.)
It's more like it's an unconscious conspiracy of the bad side of human nature over time acting in groups. And a lot of it is all coming together with this virus. Who knows if it was biolab, and if so, released on purpose or not. The analysis is still the same.
I'm about one weak away from walking down the hall in my local hospital and breathing in the air DEEPLY to try to get a small load of the virus. I suspect if I got it I'd be among those who don't even notice they ever got it and having done so have the antibodies. Maybe I'd be among those who get a light, or a bad flu.
But there's no other way for the vast majority of the world to deal with this.
Life itself is risky. I think Trump regrets, though knows he was forced into it, the decision not go the Swedish route. On the other hand, there was the secondary consideration that even IF the Swedish route would have been fine, markets would have really crashed and the economy's own immune system, just like humans' immune systems, could have caused its own death by over-reacting.
End analysis: There is nothing new under the sun. This is what humans do and have always done, this evil that appears as a conspiracy and sometimes is and sometimes isn't when men act as organizations, groups and governments. We have to stay vigilant and if and when the time comes to put a stop to it, with violence if necessary, as some already are, then so be it -> the founders probably expected that time would come long before it has. Personally I don't think it's here yet, and we can be thankful Trump is running the show now because if the left were running it, I think it would be right around the corner.
It's a pretty extreme version of garden variety biblical stuff. To me the meaning of Original Sin is that man does not see the world as it is. As a consequence, he has fear, which translates to a form of greed and aggression, which translates to convincing himself he must take things including lives (abortion), and thinking he is right and doing good, often having almost explicitly lied to himself, he goes about destroying things. That's China, Pharma, the Left, WHO, CDC, Fauci, HandBirx and all the rest. Deluded, blind, dreaming, acquired power, therefore very dangerous to what God intended and yet ironically intended us to have to grapple with.
Some dietitians argue that many people, especially in US, are overfed and undernourished, therefore weak immune system. COVID-19 may be indirect proof of that.
Take vitamin D3.
The idea of walking around with a mask all the time is ridiculous. You want to breathe the fresh air....fill your lungs...with are restricted with a mask. And sunshine...enjoy it. Not too long and no lather all over.
New tagline after listening.
Any medication classified as a tumor necrosis factor (TNF) blocker will weaken your immune system. Things like Humira, Cosentyx, etc.
I take Humira and I haven’t left the house in almost a month.
Is there any word on how those with auto immune diseases that have long been on hydroxychloroquine are faring?
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