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'Infect the young and isolate those at risk' - One German scientist's plan to end lockdown
The Telegraph ^ | April 11, 2020 | Justin Huggler

Posted on 04/11/2020 11:34:48 AM PDT by PGR88

A leading German epidemiologist who predicted the coronavirus crisis in Europe is now calling for governments to end the lockdown. But he now believes the lockdown is in danger of going on too long and causing more damage than the virus, and has drawn up a plan for how it can be safely lifted.

“It’s impossible to wait for a vaccine,” Prof Kekulé told The Telegraph. “The quickest we could have a vaccine ready is in six months. Based on experience, I’d say the reality is closer to a year. We can’t stay under lockdown for six months to a year. If we did that our society and our culture would be ruined.”

First, he says, the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions who are most vulnerable to the virus must remain in isolation.

“We have to persuade them to stay at home, and that means we have to find ways of making it bearable for them, such as apps that will allow them to order their shopping or continue their social life,” he says.

That brings us to the second point in Prof Kekulé’s plan: a move from social distancing to what he calls “smart distancing”.

“We need to adapt distancing to the situation. A cashier at a supermarket check-out, for instance, is going to be exposed to infection all day. He needs to wear a mask, he needs proper hygiene measures. A taxi driver needs to learn not to touch his face after handling money.”

Thirdly, and most controversially, Prof Kekulé says we have to let the young get the virus. “People under 50 are very, very unlikely to die or get seriously ill from the coronavirus,” he says. “We have to let them get infected so they can develop immunity.”

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Science; Society
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; flubroorgasms; morebrawndo; nazimedexperiment
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1 posted on 04/11/2020 11:34:48 AM PDT by PGR88
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Here you go. Sudden calamity comes upon man and they don't expect it. Also, a man who is not supposed to know how to save the city, saves the city. Perhaps someone of humble position could tell us how to avoid lots of deaths AND keep from ruining our economy. However, the big wigs all have agendas to pursue so truth doesn't matter to them. How does this relate to current events?

Ecclesiastes 9:12 Moreover, man does not know his time: like fish caught in a treacherous net, and birds trapped in a snare, so the sons of men are ensnared at an evil time when it suddenly falls on them.
Ecclesiastes 9:13 Also this I came to see as wisdom under the sun, and it impressed me.
Ecclesiastes 9:14 There was a small city with few men in it and a great king came to it, surrounded it, and constructed large siegeworks against it.
Ecclesiastes 9:15 But there was found in it a poor wise man and he delivered the city by his wisdom. Yet no one remembered that poor man.
Ecclesiastes 9:16 So I said, "Wisdom is better than strength."But the wisdom of the poor man is despised and his words are not heeded.

2 posted on 04/11/2020 11:37:01 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: PGR88

This humble, unknown man, is telling the truth.


3 posted on 04/11/2020 11:38:12 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Hidden wisdom.


4 posted on 04/11/2020 11:43:17 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: PGR88

African-Americans hit hardest


5 posted on 04/11/2020 11:44:42 AM PDT by RonnG (')
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Dole out the HC


6 posted on 04/11/2020 11:45:05 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's also a highway to hell.)
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“A leading German epidemiologist”

Yeah, they used to do lots of experiments on kids.

I recall there was one gerrman doctor that did some thing with twins about 75 years ago . . .


7 posted on 04/11/2020 11:45:41 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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Exactly. And in a few years, ‘Just kidding, you have airborne bat HIV, if you are lucky you can manage it with antivirals for the rest of your life” but thanks for playing.


8 posted on 04/11/2020 11:48:59 AM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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To: PGR88
Covid can also present with GI symptoms (diarrhea, abdominal pain, etc.), and there are some data suggesting that people who present with these symptoms are less likely to go on to develop severe respiratory symptoms like others. Possibly the route of inoculation is a significant determinant of the clinical outcome. If so, perhaps oral administration of an attenuated form could be a route for vaccination.

Polio is a different kind of RNA virus (an enterovirus, which is not enveloped), but the Sabin vaccine used this approach, and it worked. It also led to herd immunity. Although coronaviruses are enveloped, and do not infect only via an enteric route, they are single stranded (positive strand) RNA viruses - like the enteroviruses. Multiple attenuated strains could be combined in an oral vaccine, and might promote broad immunization.

Just a thought.

9 posted on 04/11/2020 11:50:21 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Biggirl

Its the only common-sense approach, and this has been obvious for several weeks.

I have no doubt Governments will certainly adopt this policy soon.

They will start adjusting corporate media propaganda, to eliminate the fear they first created, and create a public mood swing - the goal of which is to protect the reputation of political leaders who caused this disaster, and try not to show too much hypocrisy and stupidity of public institutions.


10 posted on 04/11/2020 11:50:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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What evidence is there that lasting (1-10 year) immunity is possible from this virus?


11 posted on 04/11/2020 11:55:10 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: PGR88; All
German scientist’s perspective compliments the following thread imo.
Infectious Disease Expert Says His Clinic Has Not Seen ANYONE UNDER 70 Who was not Obese or Pre-Diabetic Get Seriously Ill with COVID-19 (VIDEO)

We need to test people for COVID-19 and its antibodies before immunizing them so we know more about how virus spreads. People may already have been infected with virus without knowing it and are now immune to it anyway.

Immunizing people without first testing for exposure just throws valuable data away imo.

Insights welcome.

12 posted on 04/11/2020 11:58:17 AM PDT by Amendment10
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“ immunity”...
a pipedream. Like an HIV vaccine.

Furthermore I am reading “anecdotal reports’” that up to 20% of the young that survive suffer damage to lungs, hearts and/or nervous system. Possibly male infertility.

Debilitation Sure wont help the herd on subsequent waves

Even if all of the surviving herd over age 60 or with diabetes, high BP, or autoimmune compromised is on protective confinement or treated like lepers when they are allowed to go out


13 posted on 04/11/2020 12:00:58 PM PDT by silverleaf (Remember kids: You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out!)
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“China Airborne Bat HIV”

No fortune in your cookie...


14 posted on 04/11/2020 12:02:26 PM PDT by silverleaf (Remember kids: You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out!)
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I have been saying this for weeks. An Merkle even said this. The only people who should be or need be in quarantine are the “at risk “ people. They are the ones who fill the hospitals. They are the ones who fill the morgues. And they use up the resources. Hide them, and let the virus wash over us. Some will die. But you can’t stop it. No doctor is saying you can stop it. So hide the most vulnerable and go quickly to herd immunity. The faster the better.

Also, we need to investigate what Tucker said last night. What is going on in China. Something is very very wrong there. We no they are lying. No surprise. But how are they lying. What are they lying about? Shanghai and Beijing had early cases reported by China itself. They did not go through the severe lock down like Wuhan. But they seem to have few cases, why? Did they get it and go through the same as Paris? Or did they have no deaths as reported. You would think there were draconian measures in these first world cities but nobody is talking? Which is it? Or... here comes the conspiracy, were they ready for it. Did they have a vaccine or a drug? Or were cases kept out of those cities before we were told about the infection rates? Where is the lie? We know there is a lie, but where is it?


15 posted on 04/11/2020 12:03:00 PM PDT by poinq
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What evidence is there that lasting (1-10 year) immunity is possible from this virus?

Since science and history show immunity is almost always available to those who have recovered from a disease (its the basis for vaccines, after all), for a fringe notion as yours, its really up to you to prove conclusively immunity is somehow not possible with Covid-19 - not the other way around.

16 posted on 04/11/2020 12:06:29 PM PDT by PGR88
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This guy is smart unlike tunnel vision Fauci. Fauci really cares about getting into the anti-Virus hall of fame. Crashed economy...He could care less. The epitome of tunnel vision. Kudlow and his team will sidelining this dope and opening up the economy.


17 posted on 04/11/2020 12:07:16 PM PDT by dennisw
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What is going on in China. Something is very very wrong there.

OF COURSE China is lying. Does anyone believe that Shanghai, a city of 25 million, a transport hub of China, 800 KM downriver from Wuhan, has only had 6 total deaths from Covid-19? Its pure bullshit.

I know China well. What’s happened is very simple. The Chinese Government now understands this disease and who it affects. Its is not a threat to the nation or CCP control. So the Government has simply declared victory, and claim its due to their great leadership. What remains is simply managing news and public opinion, and Communists are very good at that. China will be declared “Covid-19 free” - and who, especially in China, will prove them wrong?

18 posted on 04/11/2020 12:13:55 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: silverleaf

Furthermore I am reading “anecdotal reports’” that up to 20% of the young that survive suffer damage to lungs, hearts and/or nervous system. Possibly male infertility.


Untrue BS. Most young people either don’t get it, or don’t even know they have it. More than 99% have no, or mild symptoms. People under 30 years old are amazingly free of any effects. So much that the news is trying to escalate any story that shows anyone under 30 dying, while 20% of those over 80 are dying. This is to stop those young people from thinking this is only an old peoples disease and not to care. But even as you look into the reports of babies or other young people dying, you see that they have huge miladies before the virus. The reality is that the data says young people have far more likelihood of a cancer related injury or death than from this virus.


19 posted on 04/11/2020 12:18:04 PM PDT by poinq
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I don't understand why the whole of the country has to suffer because a virus might hit a 90 yro and instead of dying from pneumonia they die from the virus....

from what I have read, the rates of death from pneumonia and flu are down.....

BINGO....

those that would have probably died from pneumonia (blessing of the aged) or flu now are dying from the covid.....

what exactly was accomplished from this farcical shutdown besides ruining the lives of millions of people?.....

tell the vulnerable to stay isolated, period....but ONLY if they want to...otherwise, we all take our chances....

I now believe that this has been a political stunt springing from an unfortunate illness turned into a monster by TPTB....

20 posted on 04/11/2020 12:27:09 PM PDT by cherry
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