Posted on 04/10/2020 4:46:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
Hundreds of people dying in their homes or on the street in New York City are not being including in the coronavirus death count even if they had symptoms; suggesting the city may be significantly under-counting its COVID-19 fatalities.
Data from the NYC fire department shows that 1,125 people died in their homes or on the street in the first five days of April alone, which is more than eight times the number of deaths recorded this time last year when when 131 people died.
The daily tally of residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, the data shows.
The fire department data is based on information collected during 911 calls involving cardiac or respiratory arrest with fever and cough; symptoms that are in line with severe coronavirus cases.
While those symptoms could also fit diseases such as influenza, the steep rise coincides with the surge in coronavirus cases and deaths in New York City.
Between March 20 and April 5, the number of coronavirus-like cases, including patients who survived, tripled from 94 to 322.
The percentage of calls in which paramedics could not save the person rose from 48 percent percent to 75 percent.
Paramedics have not been testing people for coronavirus if they die at home or on the street. It suggests that the soaring death toll from the virus could be much higher than currently reported.
The death toll in New York City increased by 518 on Thursday, bringing the total number of deaths to more than 4,700. The number of infections increased by 7,500 to bring the total cases to more than 87,000.
As New York City deals with the mounting coronavirus death toll and dwindling morgue space, the city has now shortened the
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Anyone who wants to disprove the claimed numbers can FOIA the 911 call tapes.
Those numbers claimed in the Daily Mail story would not surprise me. NYC is a big, densely populated city, whose mayor told them to go to the bars, go to work, ride the subway. He would want to hide high death toll that would point back at his inaction and dismissal of risks.
Just my opinion. YMMV
I’m from NYC. That’s how.
Stop trolling with your propaganda.
“.. bodies hanging in trees and the like”
There were dead snakes hanging in trees...and pangolins
Many dead pangolins.
The "deaths from the virus" that comes from the blue states will continue at 2000-2500 for the rest of the month and 1000 a day in May. There will probably 100,000 of those deaths. Every single one that is not an obvious premature death will be celebrated by the media. Just google https://www.google.com/search?q=young+healthy+DJ&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS791US791&oq=young+healthy+DJ&aqs=chrome..69i57.10664j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 and look through the 389,000,000 hits. They are not all stories about the young healthy DJ of course but many are. The man was killed by a rushed intubation. There is no lack of ventilators, the problem is that they are using them on people who are still breathing on their own and blowing out lungs. He walked into the hospital breathing and the ventilator was not needed.
But we have plenty of time before November for the facts to come out and the sane governors to reopen their states for business to show it can be done safely. This virus is approx. 10x more lethal than flu, although we don't know the actual infection rate, so it may be less than that. But thanks to social changes the total deaths will be only a little worse than a bad flu season.
Stupid a##es trying to breathe life into a story that will end soon
Like you, there is too much missing from thios tale to be believable...
We seem to be observing the same things.
Stupid a##es trying to breathe life into a story that will end soon.
Unfortunately, it will be like Trump and Russia/Russia.
My grand kid’s grand kids will hear how dumb and slow Trump was to act.
WTF?
There are likely hundreds of bodies in NYC homes every day. There is a wellness check squad in every NYC precinct that goes around and collects bodies from apartments. It is common for people to die in their sleep, and people find out because they don’t show up somewhere they normally do. Or they start to smell over time. In a city of 10+ million like New York, it can be a hundred in a day easily.
That being said, the issue is more acute now. People are in their homes more now. And people are not showing up anywhere now. So they may be dead longer now. It would not be easy to figure out how someone died if they are not found for 2 or 3 weeks.
This virus’ fatality rate cannot be just figured just by the number of dead versus last year. We have locked down people. So the car accidents are lower. The stress is higher. Depression and suicide may grow. Alcoholism may grow. But flu may not spread like it did. So there are lots of compounding factors going on. You can’t just say surplus deaths are caused by the virus. You might be able to say that deaths are caused by the virus and the response without figuring out how many are caused by one and not the other.
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