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To: FormerFRLurker

I think that it’s still practical to use the South Korean strategy outside of New York. New York needs a geographical quarantine strategy now. No one in or out of the city.

The government, charities or volunteers can organize to drop off groceries for the elderly. That is a sensible place for resources to go if we’re going to spend $2 trillion dollars on the current strategy. I do not understand how you think it’s feasible for everybody to be quarantined from everybody else somehow, but you don’t think a much smaller segment of the population can quarantine themselves under Plan B. That’s not logical.

Quarantining the entire country isn’t practical or feasible and doesn’t make a lot of sense. The expense of it gets more astronomical with every passing day yet we are not being given an exit strategy to get back to normal.

Reading about the 1918 Spanish Flu, it actually mutated into a second deadlier form, but people who had had the first form were still immune to the second. So one city that had a huge outbreak of the first form ended up having one of the lowest overall death totals because they were immune to the second, deadlier form in large numbers.

The idea that the current shutdown strategy is logical or healthy is nothing that can be proven. If what happened to the Spanish Flu happens to this one, this strategy could prove disastrous. We have a huge opportunity to allow young people to get this disease in a harmless form and get immunity to it. Then if it mutates or comes back later, they will be protected themselves and also create herd immunity to protect others. Since none of us can predict the future, a less restrictive strategy is just as likely to be the best one as a complete shutdown strategy.

What we are seeing in the current strategy is classic, one-level thinking. Governors are using the most basic, layman’s thinking to put out a simplistic strategy that seems obvious but may be completely wrong when deeper thinking is applied. What I’ve seen so far in the media is them struggling to show evidence that the shutdown strategy is working at all even though their liberal antennae are in love with the strict government controls.


76 posted on 04/04/2020 2:09:21 AM PDT by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: JediJones

New York needs a geographical quarantine strategy now. No one in or out of the city.

Completely agree. And if the New Yorkers complain about it ask them if they criticized the Chinese government for blocking off Wuhan.

I do not understand how you think it’s feasible for everybody to be quarantined from everybody else somehow, but you don’t think a much smaller segment of the population can quarantine themselves under Plan B. That’s not logical.

Like I said before total isolation is impossible for everyone, young or old. The idea behind the quarantine is not to stop the spread of the virus entirely but to flatten the curve enough so that our finite number of ICU beds are not all taken up by CV patients. This cannot be done if people are out socializing and partying like those idiot spring breakers. My brother is still going to work because he works in an industry deemed essential. Unfortunately my brother lives with my elderly parents and one of his coworkers was recently diagnosed with CV. So yes even under the strictest of quarantines my parents might get it anyway. The difference is with social distancing there is a greater chance there will be enough medical resources to help them. If that means living off my savings for a few months and taking a hit in my stock portfolio that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

If what happened to the Spanish Flu happens to this one, this strategy could prove disastrous. We have a huge opportunity to allow young people to get this disease in a harmless form and get immunity to it. Then if it mutates or comes back later, they will be protected themselves and also create herd immunity to protect others.

Do we know that CV behaves like Spanish Flu though? If it does then sure it makes sense to change our mitigation strategy to build herd immunity among those who are likely to survive it. But we don't know that. Even those who survive CV often have permanent lung damage afterwards. I'm not risking that and an astronomical medical bill based on a "maybe it's like the Spanish Flu." Because if it turns out that you can be reinfected with a different strain then I will be risking my health for nothing. Unless I hear from someone with an actual medical degree that herd immunity works for this virus I'm not breaking quarantine until the medical professionals say the curve is flattened enough. I don't hire clowns to do my taxes and I don't let businessmen make my health care decisions for me.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-recovery-damage-lung-function-gasping-air-hong-kong-doctors-2020-3

79 posted on 04/04/2020 1:38:22 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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