Posted on 04/03/2020 4:29:39 AM PDT by impimp
And from what Im hearing daily, symptoms are far worse than a cold for the vast majority of people.
Where are you hearing that? The CDC says the exact opposite.
My sons hospital is half empty, furloughing doctors, the rest 40% pay cut
This is now most likely an endemic disease. No matter what steps we take almost everyone will get it in the next few years. That is one of the reasons destroying our economy is so stupid. I dont foresee an effective vaccine anytime soon.
The true nightmare of what we have done with the economy is just beginning. Riots and looting by April 14.
Perhaps the MSM will Spin on a Dime, when its not the Epoch Disease theyve hysterically promoted, and accuse DJT as the one who over-reacted
“174 deaths to 10,062”
175 dead, and we shut the country down?
WTF?
25 people get shot/ some die in Chicago every weekend and it doesn’t even make the news.
Wash your hands. Take your Droxy/Zith. Get back to work.
Eff this Goobermint power grab.
Exactly what the derp state wants. And fearpers, with their shrieking, are helping in that endeavor.
“Our hospitals are not overflowing.”
Spot on, Bro.
1,000 bed ship sent to NYC.
3 patients on it.
” people are dying WITH Coronavirus and not FROM Coronavirus’
Agreed.
But if the State reports it as “With” they get no money.
Report it as “From”, and the State gets full reimbursement from the Feds for EVERYTHING.
It is not the flu. It is a completely unrelated virus, for which we have no countermeasures, no vaccines. It is actually a killer cold virus.
1.The scientific findings of HSD (health-differentiated social distancing) which were discussed in yesterdays thread. To summarize - stop the social distancing/lockdown for the young and healthy - in fact the quicker they get infected the better, for purposes of developing herd immunity to protect the old.
That is a horrible idea. I cringed when I first heard one of Rush's guest hosts propose it, and it is no better when proposed here. How do you propose to protect infants, the elderly, and the various groups with chronic diseases while the "young and healthy" purposely infects themselves? And what about the deaths in the "young and healthy" age group? Herd immunity is safely achieved with a vaccine--which we don't have yet.
2. Death count is overstated: As a fellow Flubro told me yesterday - people are dying WITH Coronavirus and not FROM Coronavirus. That is why the right hand side of the curve will be inflated relative to a normal viral spread curve.
The distinction between "with" and "from" is artificial in this context. An asthmatic or diabetic who gets Covid-19 and dies is not someone "dying with" Covid-19 just because they had asthma or diabetes. Ditto for any other condition that a person is fighting who then loses the fight because Covid-19 came along. The fact is that Covid-19 is especially deadly to people with chronic conditions. The death rate is now over 5%, as determined by the number of people who get Covid-19 infections and die.
3. Governments will use this to get more control over us - (see number 2 above - continuing a fake ongoing crisis is essential).
FYI, where infectious disease is concerned, the liberty of those infected has always been curbed in the interest of protecting the population. In the 1917-1919 H1N1 influenza pandemic, the government shut down public gatherings and limited people's movements. Unfortunately, back then, the measures were implemented late, and almost a million people still died in the US. Including my step-grandmother, when my stepdad was only 2 years old. Typhoid Mary was imprisoned to prevent her from spreading typhoid; she was a carrier who never displayed symptoms. Houses of polio victims were placed on strict quarantine, in which the inhabitants were not allowed to leave nor receive visitors. Etc. History abounds with examples of where public health considerations outweigh individual liberty.
If you want to see where government will get more control, look at the "stimulus bill" the democRATs are trying to impose. It is full of measures to deprive us permanently of our liberties. The pandemic will pass, but the democRAT power grab is forever.
As I’ve pointed out before, New York State recorded my great-uncle as a tobacco death statistic because he chewed snuff.
He passed away at age 94.
Statistical mischief will be afoot wherever Federal funding is at stake.
Ive been a flubra since the start - although I dont want to scoff at the disease, since even just the flu isnt just the flu - But the social breakdown resulting from this shutdown is the thing I have feared most.
Tempers are fraying, panic is being whipped up to the breaking point, and I think there will probably be social disturbances soon. In addition, many of the institutions that provided social cohesion have disappeared (most notably, a great number of the churches) and people are increasingly isolated and moved solely by fear and anger.
I think theres still enough time to stop this scenario, if they immediately issue a get back to work (and school) plan and start implementing it. This will give people hope and an objective.
Oh the infants...we must protect the infants from the horror of Corona!
NOT
The common cold kills way more infants than Corona. In fact what is the infant death count globally - 1? Or 0?
Stop worrying about the infants. This is common knowledge.
And how do we stop the madness, and reopen society ?
Flubros: It’s just the flu, bro!
Also flubros: Discuss how we can quickly get herd immunity against this disease so we can protect the old!
Yeah... I remember the latter conversation every flu season.
(Psst. It’s called “cognitive dissonance.”)
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.