Posted on 03/28/2020 3:53:13 AM PDT by impimp
Its just the flu, bro.
Doctors are falsely attributing a large percentage of deaths to Corona. Italy is the worst (see links below). This is happening around the world, but too a lesser extent. When people with Cystic Fibrosis die by the hundreds each year after catching a common cold, is the cause of death the common cold? NO The cause of death is CF, even though colds are very serious for them. But is that same person has Covid the cause of death is listed as Covid. This is the type of fraud that is taking place around the world. 90 year olds, cancer patients, etc arent being selectively killed by Covid...many of these people were going to die if they caught a common cold, let alone the flu.
Get back to work America!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.redstate.com/slee/2020/03/22/italys-covid-19-mortality-rate-might-be-more-than-a-little-inflated/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/amp/
Doctors are falsely attributing a large percentage of deaths to Corona. Italy is the worst (see links below). This is happening around the world, but too a lesser extent. When people with Cystic Fibrosis die by the hundreds each year after catching a common cold, is the cause of death the common cold? NO The cause of death is CF, even though colds are very serious for them. But is that same person has Covid the cause of death is listed as Covid. This is the type of fraud that is taking place around the world. 90 year olds, cancer patients, etc arent being selectively killed by Covid...many of these people were going to die if they caught a common cold, let alone the flu.
Get back to work America!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.redstate.com/slee/2020/03/22/italys-covid-19-mortality-rate-might-be-more-than-a-little-inflated/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/amp/
It’s finally getting exposed for the “relative” nothingburger that it is. I’ve started the video at the point that matters:
https://youtu.be/6mQheJGGOvw?t=302
My wife has held, from the beginning, that she’s more concerned about the flu than this.
haha i told my husband if i croak today, do not let them put coronavirus on the death certificate.
and so far i don’t know 1 person that has been affected.
My 81 and 83 year old sisters who lived in occupied Europe during WW2 think this is some craziness.
It is important to understand how the CDC determines the death toll from influenza.
In their weekly influenza report, the CDC combines all pneumonia deaths with all influenza deaths.
At the end of the seasonal influenza period - which is 01 April for many states, and perhaps nationally) - the CDC takes months to build mathematical models of the previous flu season before they make their best “estimate” of influenza deaths.
A data system like that just BEGS for political manipulation by the Progressive Left.
A graph with less than 10 on y axis is about as relevant as setting policy based on an anecdote.
Another day, another two trillion out the ass of the goose that steals the golden eggs of our kids, the feral government. Now up to a million reserves called up. Not feeling good about this
There were 85 deaths from coronavirus in NYC yesterday
https://abc7ny.com/6021383/
450 cumulative NYC Covid deaths 3-27 vs 365 3-26
so 85 deaths 3-27
Normally there are 158 deaths per day FROM ALL CAUSES and in flu season 22 deaths per day from the flu assuming a 100 day flu season
So Covid19 caused more than 50% of the deaths in NYC yesterday and 4 times the number of normal flu deaths (this is the thrid day in a row with deaths over 80 from Covid19 in NYC) Since the city keeps track of the number of deaths and their cause and puts it online, we will know how many total deaths there were. That is going to be about 158 plus the Covid deaths.
But IMPIMP just thinks the doctors are lying (actually by now he doesn’t he’s just stuck with his story so too late to change it). All of them. Assuming the everyone is lying, because IMIPIMP just knows these things, is absurd, but have fun flubros. I suggest we also have threads like these
#Cancerbros - who think cancer is funny
#Caraccidentbros - who think deaths from autos are funny
#Murderbros - who think being murdered is funny
#Combatbros - military members who think it is funny when their friends are killed in combat
And there is already a TV show for you guys!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB8DBPXo1N8
NYC deaths
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/New-York-City-Leading-Causes-of-Death/jb7j-dtam
NYC had 53,006 deaths from all causes in 2014
NYC had 2220 deaths from the flu in 2014
from Quora - 1 death every 9 minutes, 158 per day, 57,000 per year
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-die-in-New-York-every-day
For overall deaths there is very little seasonality - March 108% of average
http://www.legacy.com/news/culture-and-trends/article/yes-its-true-more-people-die-in-january
As far as I can determine, it's business as usual for the homeless in their camps with no social distancing, likely no extra hygiene practices, nada. Life goes on for those folks who are not being forced to "shelter in place" and live like caged animals. And they're not dying in droves, either.
I think President Trump is right when he says we're going to re-open by Easter. When that happens, the naysayers and predictors of doom can shelter in place all they want. Just leave the rest of us alone!
Covid19 CAUSED? It was THE cause of these deaths? No other underlying conditions in those patients? I doubt it.
“My 81 and 83 year old sisters who lived in occupied Europe during WW2 think this is some craziness.”
So does my 96-year-old mother who experienced the Great Depression.
Denial is still your problem.
I could explain it to you like you are a three year old and you’d still not understand or you would deny its relevance.
Here’s a try, though:
16 times the normal deaths. 4 times the normal deaths are attributed to CCP-19. 12 times the normal deaths are attributed to “normal” causes. This graph repeats for many localities.
That says that for every “normal” death there are 15 other deaths, but only 4 are attributed to CCP-19. So either they are lying -or- CCP-19 just triggers what ever might have killed you in a year, 5 years, 20 years, into overdrive - assuming you are not one of the people killed outright by it. And among those “normal” deaths you should see a decrease as people are not out crashing their cars or passing “the flu” to each other. So, yeah, CCP-19 deaths are being misreported alright. But by a factor of about 75% UNDER reported.
“In their weekly influenza report, the CDC combines all pneumonia deaths with all influenza deaths.”
They have to find some way to justify their projected lying numbers, and their existence in this world. When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
“4 times the normal deaths are attributed to CCP-19.”
The key phrase being, “attributed to”. TPTB can “attribute” anything they want on documents; that doesn’t mean it’s accurate or true.
Daily death rates will likely be very similar for a given area with Covid and before Covid.
Your source is a twitter post with no source even listed on the graph...and I dont speak Italian.
“The key phrase being, attributed to. TPTB can attribute anything they want on documents; that doesnt mean its accurate or true.”
That’s true.
So where do you suppose the 16x normal deaths came from? 1x would be from the normal causes. TPTB say 4x of them were CCP-19. What about the other 11x?
You’re assuming the reported numbers of deaths is true. If people were dropping like flies as this data suggests, we’d all know, or know about, recently-dead friends and family — a LOT of them. I don’t know any, and if there are 16x more deaths than usual I would. And I know a lot of old people. Still not dead.
Do your own research and Google Translate, then.
Your laziness does not invalidate the data.
Obituaries (the source, and official reports, the other source) in that area are at 10x normal or more. Average deaths from prior years is easy enough to verify. Go for it.
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