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Dr. Not Yet Dr. AgIn reply to KT_Ag08 • 2:17a, 3/27/20
KT_Ag08 said:
Thanks again for sharing. My guess is the Doc would want the HCQ if he tested positive. I get what he is saying but until we come up with something better or prove that it isn’t making any difference then it seems irresponsible to not continue treating with that cocktail.
https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3101736/2

I’m sure many have seen my opinions on this already and disagree, but I do think it is important to remain skeptical, especially in times like these. I can’t speak for Dr. Smith, but unless I am intubated and can’t say otherwise, I would not want the HCQ+Zpack combo therapy unless they can get me enrolled in an RCT. Giving two QT prolonging agents together in a disease that increases incidence of Vtach/V-fib is a bad idea if there is no proven benefit. Couple that with HCQ’s history of failing to demonstrate clinical efficacy in countless viruses it had shown promise in based on in vitro studies (HIV, HepC, Dengue, Chikungunya, Zika), and you can see why there are many docs right now that are a bit hesitant about its use. You have a known severe, but rare complication of the drug combo, and a low pre-test probability of efficacy. That combination should give pause to anyone considering this therapy. This is also ignoring countless people who are being treated with it for their connective tissue disorders now being unable to fill their prescriptions. Smith’s comments on this are not irresponsible, they are prudent.


61 posted on 03/27/2020 10:26:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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You have a known severe, but rare complication of the drug combo, and a low pre-test probability of efficacy. That combination should give pause to anyone considering this therapy. This is also ignoring countless people who are being treated with it for their connective tissue disorders now being unable to fill their prescriptions. Smith’s comments on this are not irresponsible, they are prudent.

I don't understand why officials and media haven't worked to find answers here. But the need for the drug to immediatly save someone's life should supersede the need of keeping someone's arthritis in check - the lupus I'm not too sure about - but RA can be temporarily helped with steroid medication.

73 posted on 03/27/2020 10:44:43 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: RummyChick

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120 posted on 03/27/2020 11:18:07 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: RummyChick

There are multiple, very large studies and trials in progress, as well as a significant number of treatments under compassionate use. We will soon have much more data on efficacy.

Also, with 60 Million pills just dumped into the system, and hundreds of millions more on the way, shortages are not caused by CV19 treatments, but hoarding by doctors and healthy people for “just in case”.


125 posted on 03/27/2020 11:22:10 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: RummyChick

One doctor cured 350 out of 350 coronavirus patients he gave HCQ to.


578 posted on 03/27/2020 11:13:17 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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