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Corona Virus Daily Thread #29

Posted on 03/27/2020 9:27:41 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3828581/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; livethread
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To: cgbg

now that’s pretty cool. I want one.


561 posted on 03/27/2020 9:56:34 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: EarlyBird

Assuming it’s true...

To go that fast - must have been “stormed”, or maybe had some hidden heart problem?

One death of many, but so tragic anyway.


562 posted on 03/27/2020 9:59:18 PM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: justa-hairyape

China running trials on giving Chloroquine

but how can that be? China has no new cases /s


563 posted on 03/27/2020 10:00:57 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Solson
"It mutates rapidly"

That's about the POOREST characteristic one would ever want in a bioweapon. Unless of course one was suicidal.

Geez, people, THINK!

564 posted on 03/27/2020 10:06:02 PM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: cgbg

: perk :


565 posted on 03/27/2020 10:11:16 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Thud

Thanks.


566 posted on 03/27/2020 10:20:06 PM PDT by HandyDandy (All right then I will go to hell. Huckleberry Finn)
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To: LilFarmer

great videos! the Chinese are crazy. Instead of pushing the cars to the side of the road, they just turn them upside down so they’re still blocking the road. Kind of defeats the purpose. If the purpose was to clear the road.

But if Jiangxi is setting up roadblocks to Hubei, there’s more infection that Li is letting on and the locals know it.


567 posted on 03/27/2020 10:25:40 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Paul R.

“Geez, people, THINK! “

I am so tired of hearing this virus was manufactured. It is far too weak and indiscriminate to be a bioweapon.

It simply crawled out of the fetid, filthy sewers of Wuhan where fresh remains of every conceivable animal and their feces intermingled with human waste, and eventually humans.

The most diverse and un-contained laboratory in the world.

No nation, no matter how evil, would endeavor to create this. As the impact on them would be just as bad, or potentially worse.


568 posted on 03/27/2020 10:28:20 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: mrsmith

alcohol use?


569 posted on 03/27/2020 10:30:04 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Mariner
I am so tired of hearing this virus was manufactured.

It really gets old. But believers somehow know that it’s a bioweapon.

570 posted on 03/27/2020 10:33:11 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: windsorknot

They just know it.

Though every scientist who has taken a close look at the genome says it’s natural.

Could they all be lying, or perhaps mistaken?

Sure, it’s possible.


571 posted on 03/27/2020 10:45:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I was wondering...if this thing kills a lot of our servicemen (and -women), is there a possibility that the draft would be reinstated?


572 posted on 03/27/2020 10:56:54 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: BusterDog
"New York Department of Health" (not sure if Dr is referring to city or state) said no more Covid-19 tests for anyone unless they are admitted to hospital.

There are long lines outside of Elmhurst (hospital in Queens) waiting to be tested--and presumably some of those folks are not going to be admitted.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/at-nyc-hospital-where-13-died-virus-testing-line-stretches-down-the-block-by-sunrise/2344949/

It may be some officials want the testing to stop, but it is still happening on the ground.

In Westchester, of course, there is drive in testing in New Rochelle as six other sites around the state.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-more-coronavirus-testing-than-the-cdc-any-state-2020-3
573 posted on 03/27/2020 11:03:05 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: RummyChick

so basically, if you’re not 7 days into hard breathing, they’re not going to admit you?


574 posted on 03/27/2020 11:04:37 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Magnum44
That is exactly the mistake climate folks make. You can’t extrapolate. As soon as the curve breaks it’s a different equation, a different model. You can only use interpolation equations safely within the data set. As soon as you go beyond what you know historically, it will diverge, unless you have a full cycle of data. You don’t have a full cycle for this virus and this population set. No one does. You think you have a good model because excel can fit a set of data to a curve? That is just incorrect.

Actually, using Excel to fit curves was good enough to get my PhD and publish on my research. So I'm pretty comfortable with the program and the calculations. What I am looking for, actually, is any sign that the growth is slowing, which would be reflected in the graphs by a decreased R squared value on the trendline. At that point, it would be appropriate to start deriving the exponential equation for this disease--although I'm not going to do that, since I won't be publishing. As for the extrapolations, I am completely comfortable with making them, since, like any exponential growth function, the rate of growth follows a very predictable trajectory.

This is not even comparable to what the "climate folks" do. They have taken a faulty premise--that carbon dioxide's wide band of fluorescence in the infra red frequencies equates to an increase in the energy content of the atmosphere--and extrapolated all kinds of stuff from that. Garbage in, garbage out. The fields of microbiology, epidemiology, etc., have a LOT of data and research to validate the models regarding disease spread.

The only thing I can give you is that there is a good chance that tomorrow will be close to today. But your second order fit only goes one direction - up. You will need a much more complex equation, probably something that includes sinusoidal terms as well as a polynomial, to fit to to all the data once this thing has actually gone full cycle. Then you have a model that might represent the future, assuming nothing changes. But things always change. So it’s still best guess.

As I said above, I'm looking for a change in the R squared value, which could mean that the growth of cases is slowing. Sure, determining the actual exponential equation is a bit more complicated than using a polynomial (which I already know from a TON of experience is close to within a few thousands to the actual values calculated by an exponential equation). But it's not necessary, and I don't have the full data set in any case to determine the actual exponential equation. That's because I don't know and no one knows when the increase in new cases will slow.

575 posted on 03/27/2020 11:05:52 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: RummyChick

They only wear the mask if sick?

Do they dispose of the mask after each day of use?


576 posted on 03/27/2020 11:07:39 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: RummyChick

the shield hoods look easier to make than face masks. but the separate air supply might be a problem.


577 posted on 03/27/2020 11:12:19 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: RummyChick

One doctor cured 350 out of 350 coronavirus patients he gave HCQ to.


578 posted on 03/27/2020 11:13:17 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Mariner
I am so tired of hearing this virus was manufactured. It is far too weak and indiscriminate to be a bioweapon.

I suggest the following scenario.

The virus escape was an accident from a bio lab just like the original SARs from Beijing.

The CCP began the coverup to prevent the world from seeing the severity of the impact.

The Chinese have a long history of dynasty collapses from the loss of "Mandate of Heaven." They took a pragmatic and logical approach to maintain power..

They allowed the virus to spread to weaken their enemies. China sees everyone outside of China as their enemies. Watch what they do to their internal enemies.

Their approach was to weaken every other country to reduce any foreign threats to the regime's power.

There Silk Road strategy is working perfectly as they destroy the populations along it. Their thinking is they will recover first and then they can dominate large areas of the world.

Their original military strategy was exactly that including the destruction of the US.

They didn't have to fire a shot. They lose a few million of 1.3 billion. That is nothing. The cold calculus is they won and they maintain power.
579 posted on 03/27/2020 11:16:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: cgbg

Take a look at the “case” curves and the “death” curves at the Worldometer site:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

They look almost identical.

So much for the case data not meaning anything...despite its obvious flaws it turns out to be a proxy for the death rate...it predicts/shows the trend.

More importantly, it is a fair proxy for actual infections. It is probably off by a consistent factor, but since the known death rate is in the 1-2% rate with good care and higher with an overwhelmed health care system it is clear that it is not off by _that_ much, perhaps a factor of two or three at most.

That shows the lie of the “lots of people have mild cases and are now immune” FluBro meme that has infested parts of academe as well as the political world.

The numbers say that this drama is still just beginning—in the US substantially less than 1% would test positive even if everyone were tested.

If folks don’t like the real world, that is not the fault of the real world.


580 posted on 03/27/2020 11:17:58 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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