Corona Virus Daily Thread #27

[Mariner]

Thread #26 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3827832/posts

[metmom]

Sounds like she’s pretty poor money manager.

[Black Agnes]

Until then first responders/medicals should get them preferentially IMHO.

[BobL]

Yea, I saw that regarding masks. Once (if) we can get some production going, we’ll quickly ‘discover’ the benefits of wearing masks.

[metmom]

and every man for himself.

We CANNOT depend on the government to provide for us.

They will provide for themselves first and foremost, and then the rich and famous who have the money and connections.

What we want, we have to make the effort to procure ourselves.

OTOH, we have the advantage because we have not been pampered our whole lives and know how to take care of ourselves. We can grow, preserve, sew, cobble together things, heat with a wood stove, and cook on it.

We’re good to go.

[cgbg]

Agreed—but that is just managing a shortage.

The economy cannot turn around (except in ugly fits and starts) until masks are available for everyone.

[metmom]

True.

And I am not begrudging them that.

If they get saved, that’s great.

[Black Agnes]

The economy won’t turn around until we get supply chains up and running.

Until then most manufacturing is dead in the water. Appliances, cars, vehicles of all sorts, medicines, etc. You hame it. A shocking number of industries are completely dependent, ultimately, on supply from China to function.

I won’t be completely comfortable until we can manufacture everything needed to conduct sterile surgical procedures.

[firebrand]

Absolutely.

[cgbg]

That is a lesson we had to learn the hard way.

We should count our blessings that this virus did not have a higher mortality rate..

"There is a providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children, and the United States of America” ;-)

[LilFarmer]

Thousands of NYPD Officers out on Sick Leave, Hundreds Test Positive for Coronavirus

Meaghan
March 25, 2020
Thousands of New York Police Department (NYPD) officers are on sick leave following a coronavirus outbreak within the force.

Police Commissioner Dermot Shea confirmed on Tuesday that approximately 3,200 NYPD officers were out. Of the officers out on sick leave, more than 200 officers — 177 uniformed officers and 34 civilian officers — have tested positive for the coronavirus.

According to the statistics, the number of officers equates to approximately 8% of the entire force.

While local citizens are practicing social distancing to flatten the curve, Shea admits that he is seeing the opposite within the law enforcement agency.

“It’s a trend as you talk about what we’ve seen and what we’re trying to do with social distancing, and lowering the curve what we’re seeing internally as an agency on the frontlines is we are still on an upward climb,” Shea said.

During an interview with “Fox & Friends,” Blue Lives Matter NYC founder Joseph Imperatrice has also weighed in to share details about what life is like for the officers on duty.

https://ijr.com/thousands-nypd-officers-out-sick-coronavirus-spread/

[LilFarmer]

MO

Cases in Missouri: 356, Total Deaths: 8

https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/novel-coronavirus/results.php

[Jane Long]

When does USS Comfort arrive???

When will MSG be opened up, as a makeshift CV hospital?

[LilFarmer]

IA

Employees at Cedar Rapids nursing home test positive for novel coronavirus

Two individuals, who tested positive Monday, have not been in building since Friday, officials say

CEDAR RAPIDS — Two employees at a Cedar Rapids-based nursing home have tested positive for COVID-19.

Heritage Specialty Care confirmed to The Gazette that two of its employees tested positive on Tuesday for the novel coronavirus, prompting officials to notify the Iowa Department of Public Health and begin the process of alerting families of residents and staff.

The workers, who were not identified, had not been at the facility since at least Friday and had not been feeling symptoms while at work, said a spokesman for West Des Moines-based Care Initiatives, which owns Heritage Specialty Care.

Officials could not say whether these employees are involved with direct patient care.

“Our main goal all along has been to try to maintain health and well-being of our residents and staff,” spokesman Jason Bridie said. “We better than anyone understand the vulnerabilities of the patient population we serve. We’ve been doing everything we can to limit the exposure of the COVID-19 virus and we’ll continue to do that.”

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/health/employees-at-cedar-rapids-nursing-home-test-positive-for-novel-coronavirus-20200324

[justa-hairyape]

Correct. Everyone will get exposed eventually. The goal should be to solve for the minimum possible deaths. For you currency hogs a death represents a loss of economic activity. A slowing of velocity if you will. The best way to limit loss of life is to buy time. In a personal sense, it gives me time to shed excess weight and get my immune system in peak shape before exposure. In fact I might even want to choose the point in time of my infection. Buying time means we can possible manage the number of maximum hospitalization requirements. It also gives us time to get more N95, Goggles, Gloves and Face Shields not to mention more N98 and N99 masks. And time of course allows the development of more drugs and vaccines.

[BobL]

“OTOH, we have the advantage because we have not been pampered our whole lives and know how to take care of ourselves. We can grow, preserve, sew, cobble together things, heat with a wood stove, and cook on it.”

Speak for yourself! I’ve been ‘pampered’ my whole life (born and grew up Upper Middle Class suburb), went to college, and never was without a job.

Even so, I always knew (at least since thinking about it for Y2k) that we were enjoying our high-class lifestyle at the pleasure of China and that, at any time, they could take it all back. My main concerns had been a currency meltdown (much more likely now, by the way), or an EMP - but literally nothing in this life (other than death) is assured, and I thought about that many times (and beat it into my kids, big-time).

And the funny thing is, I have NO CLUE as to what hardened me regarding this - it wasn’t family or friends, they were/are in lala land. The closest I can come, thinking about it, was what my grandmother used to say about my grandfather who cut his teeth in the depression - he would never throw out a bent nail - they could always be straightened out (enough) to be used again.

Like everyone else, I used to throw things out when they wore out or broke (or bent), at least if I had a replacement - but not now, for I do not know when/if there will be anything more coming down the pike...I’m starting to think like my grandfather now...and I also know that the days of being able to buy whatever we want, whenever we want, and cheap, are coming to an end, so I am buying many things now, much of which I may not use, much of it spares for what I have, much of it for contingencies which may or may not happen (like power failures), and much of which will probably outlast me.

[LilFarmer]

OH

704 Confirmed Cases in Ohio *
75 Number of ICU admissions
182 Number of Hospitalizations in Ohio
10 Number of Deaths **
<1–94 Age Range
51 Median Age
53% Sex - Males
47% Sex - Females
Last Updated: 03/25/20 (Updated daily at 2 p.m.)

* Number of counties with cases: 55 – Ashland (1), Ashtabula (3), Belmont (3), Butler (18), Carroll (3), Champaign (1), Clark (2), Clermont (5), Clinton (2), Columbiana (4), Coshocton (4), Crawford (1), Cuyahoga (206), Darke (1), Defiance (2), Delaware (12), Erie (2), Fairfield (5), Fayette (1), Franklin (88), Gallia (1), Geauga (4), Greene (3), Hamilton (48), Hancock (1), Highland (1), Huron (2), Knox (2), Lake (14), Lawrence (1), Licking (3), Logan (2), Lorain (37), Lucas (23), Madison (2), Mahoning (42), Marion (4), Medina (22), Mercer (1), Miami (19), Montgomery (14), Pickaway (1), Portage (4), Richland (4), Sandusky (1), Seneca (1), Stark (12), Summit (43), Trumbull (9), Tuscarawas (3), Union (3), Warren (8), Washington (1), Wayne (1), Wood (3)

** Number of deaths: 10 – Cuyahoga (2), Erie (1), Franklin (2), Gallia (1), Lucas (1), Miami (1), Stark (2)

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/

[Vermont Lt]

The Hospitals have always had that rule. It goes back decades. It’s a requirement under the Joint Commission. It’s for emergencies, declared emergencies.

The problem is the bean counters running hospitals treat it like the Social Security Trust Fund—it’s sitting right there...we will replace it when we HAVE to.

Ok...you HAVE to.

Oh...there’s none to be bought...it’s the Fed/CDC fault.

This virus is exposing a lot of things that are going to piss off a lot of people—and demonstrate the greed of the people who own US corporations.

[LilFarmer]

FL

1,682 cases with 22 deaths

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

[semantic]

I should mention again that the models I'm using are freely available and easily customizable. Just send me a PM for the link for the google sheets. It might interest you to look with greater detail into Madrid vs NYC vs USA vs Italy, etc, and perhaps model your own test assumptions.

Speaking of NY, they are completely distorting the rest of the US. In fact, US (less NY) daily fatalities peaked a few days ago at 90, and are now at 40+-% of the top:

I've got to give credit to kabar - he's one of the first who brought up the developing awareness about apparent CV specificity. More than anything, it may not be age and/or HCS, but simply dense urban life styles and living conditions that are the prime driver of CV - both scope/rate of infection spread and mortality. This episode is going to launch a thousand PhD theses producing very complex, detailed analyses.

[Vermont Lt]

How many votes for face masks will you get next year?

It’s not sexy...but the rules are there for a reason.