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Scott Adams blows up The System. Shows The Peasants How To Get The Hydroxychloroquine/Z-Pak Regimen If They Need It. Lots Of The F-Word.
Scott Adams video channel on YouTube ^ | March 25, 2020 | Scott Adams

Posted on 03/25/2020 9:23:43 AM PDT by kiryandil

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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well thanks for that example, although I don’t use television shows to define reality, either.

Solving problems without controlled studies is the entire history of mankind.


141 posted on 03/25/2020 10:36:15 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: JayGalt
Thanks for the offer. I was looking for the annual consumption per person numbers. Dosage doesn't seem to vary by much from country to country. Mostly it started with "Why(does it seem) that malaria regions aren't(seemingly) impacted by COVID-19 as Europe and the US.
142 posted on 03/25/2020 10:36:59 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: wastoute

Are you this careful with all your decisions & recommendations?
You are aware patients have idiosyncratic reactions and every decision you make is on best available information but you may have to live with consequences on any decision you make?
This decision is no different than all the other decisions to treat a patient with a drug and in many ways much easier. There is a long history (80 years) of safe use in all ages, sexes, in pregnant women. The drug is in use world wide. People are dying without treatment and ~1000 documented COVID-19 patients have been given this drug with excellent results.


143 posted on 03/25/2020 10:39:28 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: wastoute
Let me put it this way, if this drug not only doesn’t work but hurts people will YOU be willing to let 330 million people blame YOU?

And the smokescreen generator drones on.

It's already been pointed out in numerous places that this is ALREADY IN USE for this very purpose.

Your post here is just Loserthink rhetorical blather, trying to carry your dead non-point across the goal line.

144 posted on 03/25/2020 10:39:56 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: kiryandil

And I have already posted we will know in two days if they put everyone in NYC on it today. I have also pointed out there is no reason to wait two days. We have access to an answer now. Why aren’t we getting it?


145 posted on 03/25/2020 10:41:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

The answer to your question, if in the affirmative, wouldn’t from my perspective have any weight in directing us not to use the medicine for COVID-19 cases. I think the medicine works.

But it wouldn’t even give cause from your perspective either, because you don’t consider “anecdotal evidence” to be sufficient.

In other words, if the answer to your question is yes, it’s only “anecdotal.”


146 posted on 03/25/2020 10:42:00 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Actually in his video he is pretty specific. He treats a Hasidim community. In treating 350 patients outpatient all recovered, none became sick enough to require hospitalization.


147 posted on 03/25/2020 10:43:26 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: wastoute

“We have access to an answer now. Why aren’t we getting it?”

Why do you think we’re not getting it?


148 posted on 03/25/2020 10:43:43 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: kiryandil

Mine does buts waits till Christmas day


149 posted on 03/25/2020 10:44:06 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: reasonisfaith

No. It actually is not. A retrospective study of mortality is a VERY legit medical question. Thousands of papers are published. We have a “tailor made” retrospective study of mortality that could be done form the 2,000 cases of seriously ill and dead. You can’t tell me none of them were on Plaquenil a month ago. What has happened to them is a very legit question to ask and the answer can be known in milliseconds.


150 posted on 03/25/2020 10:45:18 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

It’s not a new medicine.

Hydroxychloroquine has been used for decades.

Millions of people have taken it for malaria and arthritis.


151 posted on 03/25/2020 10:45:32 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I was looking for the number of doses yearly in the world. I didn’t find that. I will look for your question as well.


152 posted on 03/25/2020 10:45:53 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: JayGalt

Yes, I always have been “this careful”. It is how I managed to practice Medicine for 40 years without ever being sued. Not once. Can YOUR doctor say that? My patients appreciated that I have always been this careful, my patients were friends, not cattle.


153 posted on 03/25/2020 10:46:48 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: reasonisfaith; JayGalt; CharlesWayneCT; wastoute
Say, I had a thought, and went back and checked.

Did you know that wastoute the pettifogging gasbag was on this thread less than two minutes after I posted it?

Which means that he didn't have time to review any of the material.

Which means that he's shooting from the lip, and shooting from his plainly-obvious agenda.

He's not interested in anything except his own "arguments"...

154 posted on 03/25/2020 10:47:02 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Re 2). In states where they are running trials, you might screw up the trial if you are supposed to be a control but you are taking the meds.

At this point it’s unethical to run a placebo controlled study. There is more than enough evidence that severe patients should get some sort of anti-viral—either a chloroquine, lopinivar plus rotonivir ( standard protocol in China) or remdisivir.

Real problem is that chloroquine in vitro studies have shown its even more effective as prophylaxis so the authorities are trying to preserve it for severe cases.

Priority is to use currently limited supply to treat those in danger of death. As supply allows, we should treat positives because in addition to reducing likelihood of hospitalization, it radically shortens the time that you’re infectious. Third would be prophylaxis for high risk patients and essential healthcare workers.


155 posted on 03/25/2020 10:47:06 AM PDT by 5by5 (ad)
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To: JayGalt

Thank you!

Much appreciated.


156 posted on 03/25/2020 10:47:26 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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157 posted on 03/25/2020 10:48:16 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: wastoute

I’m confused. They deployed the drug regime across NYC yesterday, thousands of doses. Cuomo announced it Monday and announced the effort in progress Tuesday.


158 posted on 03/25/2020 10:48:42 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: wastoute

Okay, it’s a legitimate question, but only for academic purposes.

Your question has no legitimacy in the discussion of whether to use this medication to treat coronavirus.

Potential benefit is saving the patient’s life. Potential risk is diarrhea and nausea.

Potential benefits outweigh potential risks.

Risk of not taking it is rapid death from respiratory distress.


159 posted on 03/25/2020 10:49:07 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith
You're wasting your time with this one.

See my post #154.

160 posted on 03/25/2020 10:49:10 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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