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Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: This New York doctor is already treating patients with Trump’s ‘gift from God’ drug
The Forward ^ | 03/24/2020 | Ari Feldman

Posted on 03/24/2020 12:28:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Truth29

Looks like it.


21 posted on 03/24/2020 12:50:00 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: KarlInOhio

What I hope is not done is Cuomo’s clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine do not fudge the numbers to make it look like it won’t work. Thus, a sabotage of Trump’s effort to fight the virus.


22 posted on 03/24/2020 12:51:05 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: SeekAndFind

500 is a real study. As in serious science. It is entirely ethical to “break the study” for ethical reasons and has been done before. If true, huge. I hope it’s true for this guy’s sake because he is literally laying his license on the line. This has to be taken seriously.


23 posted on 03/24/2020 12:52:46 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good to see this being reported (although I think they’re wrong that the French study Trump alluded to only involved six subjects. IIRC it was actually 24.)


24 posted on 03/24/2020 12:53:44 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

RE: IIRC it was actually 24.

It was 36. Six of them departed the trials as I recall.


25 posted on 03/24/2020 12:55:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: BushCountry

The issue is current shortages. Yes, the solution is increased supply, but until then? Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe they have plenty, but I’ve been reading to the contrary.


26 posted on 03/24/2020 12:56:38 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Red Badger

“WHY?????.”

Because Trump must be resisted, even if people die.


27 posted on 03/24/2020 12:56:54 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: jonrick46

Thanks. I had missed this. Great to see:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/israeli-drug-company-donating-6-million-doses-of-malaria-drug-to-us-to-combat-coronavirus


28 posted on 03/24/2020 12:58:40 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind
On Monday evening, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo released an executive order that effectively ended pharmacists’ ability to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for use in treating Covid-19, and prohibited any experimental use of the drug outside of state-approved clinical trials.

So the FDA approves the drug for off label use, but the governor says no to anybody who isn't in a study??

29 posted on 03/24/2020 12:58:48 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SeekAndFind
“And this is a political year, with a presidential election, and there are forces at play that would prefer to see the economy collapse rather than President Trump to look good, in my opinion,” Zelenko said.

Smart man

30 posted on 03/24/2020 12:59:47 PM PDT by Pollard (shadowbanned)
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To: SeekAndFind

...he has been using a cocktail of drugs: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin — an antibiotic to treat secondary infections — and zinc sulfate...
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Good move adding the zinc IMO. The other drugs work by helping zinc enter the cell but there has to be adequate zinc in the bloodstream in the first place. The other day I saw a report where the drugs were ineffective in a couple of cases and I wondered if the patients may have been low on zinc.


31 posted on 03/24/2020 1:05:08 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Red Badger

On Monday evening, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo released an executive order that effectively ended pharmacists’ ability to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for use in treating Covid-19, and prohibited any experimental use of the drug outside of state-approved clinical trials.
WHY?????.............@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

The use of “generic” drugs to fight this virus at a cost of .50 a dose versus a “new drug fast tracked to market” with a manufacturers exclusive right to proceeds from all production and sold at even $5 a dose means HUGE BIG PHARMA PROFITS with the cost Born by the Fed through phase IV package by congress (next bill in line)!

No wonder FDA/CDC/BIG PHARMA fighting quinine/z-PAC

POTUS is still in there fighting ALL SIDES in this battle. The difference is I believe God is on our side and that gives us THE MAJORITY!

MAGA! WWG1WGA!


32 posted on 03/24/2020 1:08:29 PM PDT by Billyv ( Ephesians 6:11 for we battle not against flesh and blood...Pray for our leaders and nation!)
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To: Truth29

So wait now the clinical trials in NY wont happen??


33 posted on 03/24/2020 1:14:42 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

On Monday evening, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo released an executive order that effectively ended pharmacists’ ability to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for use in treating Covid-19, and prohibited any experimental use of the drug outside of state-approved clinical trials.

~ well in that case, drive your butt over to New Jersey!


34 posted on 03/24/2020 1:24:46 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: volunbeer

Those are good questions. I’m hoping it sounds worse than it is and there’s a sensible explanation.

I do notice the order specifically ends “pharmacists’” ability to prescribe hydroxychloroquine. It doesn’t say “doctors’”. Maybe they’re trying to prevent a run on the drug due to people getting scrips directly from pharmacists with no doctor in the loop. Some states allow pharmacists to prescribe certain drugs. Not sure what the law is in NY.

As for prohibiting experimental use, I wonder if that would include the currently allowed off-label use. If so that’s a problem. If not, which I hope is the case, then I’d guess their intent is to prevent a potentially confusing flood of experimental results from various testing outfits.


35 posted on 03/24/2020 1:49:06 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Eagles6

Here is the language:

No pharmacist shall dispense hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19, with such test result documented as part of the prescription. No other experimental or prophylactic use shall be permitted, and any permitted prescription is limited to one fourteen day prescription with no refills.

Here is the executive order:

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-20210-continuing-temporary-suspension-and-modification-laws-relating-disaster-emergency


36 posted on 03/24/2020 2:09:51 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: rwoodward

Here is the language:

No pharmacist shall dispense hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19, with such test result documented as part of the prescription. No other experimental or prophylactic use shall be permitted, and any permitted prescription is limited to one fourteen day prescription with no refills.

Here is the executive order:

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-20210-continuing-temporary-suspension-and-modification-laws-relating-disaster-emergency


37 posted on 03/24/2020 2:10:17 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: SeekAndFind

The statement was misinterpreted

Here is the language:

No pharmacist shall dispense hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19, with such test result documented as part of the prescription. No other experimental or prophylactic use shall be permitted, and any permitted prescription is limited to one fourteen day prescription with no refills.

Here is the executive order:

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-20210-continuing-temporary-suspension-and-modification-laws-relating-disaster-emergency


38 posted on 03/24/2020 2:12:25 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Yep.

Black market is going to explode and desperate people will be robbing pharmacies.

39 posted on 03/24/2020 2:16:11 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Hm, not liking that language. Sounds like they really do intend to prohibit “off-label” use and restrict only to state approved testing.

The silver lining may be that the “clinical trial” that was slated to begin today involves a number of doses sufficient to treat about 10,000 people. In other words, it’s really a round of treatment and only nominally a “trial”. It’s just that outcomes will be tracked and it will be done under the umbrella of state authority. If they do it right, then it should be the functional equivalent of just letting doctors prescribe as they see fit but with a little more tracking documentation required.


40 posted on 03/24/2020 2:30:21 PM PDT by Yardstick
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