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The Agony of Defeat: Vinko Bogataj wiped out 50 years ago
SportsCasting.Com ^ | 03/21/2020 | John Moriello

Posted on 03/21/2020 3:10:37 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Could you imagine the worst moment of your career being put on display for all to see on a weekly basis for decades? If so, then you can identify with Vinko Bogataj, immortalized by his epic crash off a ski-jumping ramp that came to represent “the agony of defeat.”

Today is the 50th anniversary of the crash during a European competition that literally made him famous by accident. The clip endured for decades as part of the opening for each week’s “Wide World of Sports” and lives on as a YouTube favorite.

(Excerpt) Read more at sportscasting.com ...


TOPICS: History; Sports
KEYWORDS: abc; bogataj; vinko; vinkobogataj; wideworldofsports
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1 posted on 03/21/2020 3:10:37 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Boy do I ever remember that.

I was kind of a Ski Jumping fanatic back then.


2 posted on 03/21/2020 3:11:53 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

Wasn’t Bogataj in reality a very good skier?


3 posted on 03/21/2020 3:13:21 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I consider myself as brave as the next guy, maybe even braver, but there is no way I would try ski jumping.


4 posted on 03/21/2020 3:14:31 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: Kid Shelleen; Chode; Squantos; SkyDancer; Lockbox; carriage_hill; OldMissileer; infool7

Classic Vintage Crash Scene Ping)))


5 posted on 03/21/2020 3:16:23 PM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: crz

I remember watching that too. I seem to remember that the ski jump got really icy that day and they eventually stopped the competition. So it wasn’t the skiers fault, just bad conditions.


6 posted on 03/21/2020 3:18:37 PM PDT by rossusa
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To: Kid Shelleen

Ski Jumping is one of those things I’ll never figure out how anyone can have the guts to do.


7 posted on 03/21/2020 3:19:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Used to watch Wide World of Sports when I was a kid back in the 1970s.

Innocent times.

8 posted on 03/21/2020 3:20:45 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Trump (859); Slow Joe (527); Commie (476); Fake Indian (48); Drunken Weld (1))
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To: Kid Shelleen

No crash helmet back then.


9 posted on 03/21/2020 3:22:29 PM PDT by logitech
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To: dfwgator
If you've been to a ski jump hill you might notice how low the actual height of the jumper is relative to the slope beneath him.

In winter sports, it’s the men’s downhill that has to be the most treacherous event of them all. And the skeleton (like the luge, but HEAD FIRST down the hill) is like racing at Daytona without a harness or a windshield in the car.

10 posted on 03/21/2020 3:26:18 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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To: Alberta's Child

My all-time Olympic moment is still Franz Klammer in the 1976 Winter Olympics downhill.


11 posted on 03/21/2020 3:27:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

VERY good jumper. VERY good. Like all the Euro jumpers.

I used to go to the Pine Mountain Classic-as they call it now, every year. Thats in Iron Mountain MI.

The jumpers, although they compete against others, will tell you that the number one competitor they compete against is the hill.

I have watched them group up and talk to each other on how the heck they can beat that hill.


12 posted on 03/21/2020 3:27:07 PM PDT by crz
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To: dfwgator

Tell you what, you can actually say that they are NUTS.

Ski flying is really something. I dont even know what the record is now and I would bet its over 700 feet.


13 posted on 03/21/2020 3:29:45 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz
Eddie the Eagle was my favorite...


14 posted on 03/21/2020 3:29:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Back in the early 2000s the first to adapt the “V” shape style was a Fin. A kid who was 16 at the time..I think.


15 posted on 03/21/2020 3:32:13 PM PDT by crz
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To: dfwgator

Because it’s fun.
It’s like repelling, only sideways.


16 posted on 03/21/2020 3:35:23 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: dfwgator

Here it is..the record. Over 800 feet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96BkG0TYKrY


17 posted on 03/21/2020 3:36:57 PM PDT by crz
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To: dfwgator

I’ve stood at the top of the ski jump hill in Park City (2002 Olympic Venue), and OMG it is steep!


18 posted on 03/21/2020 3:36:59 PM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: Kid Shelleen
A few different years of the intro on youtube. Mostly low quality, but from a different era.

You can see a few interesting sports legends in most of these intro’s.

My favorite so far is from 1980 which gives you a second “Agony of Defeat” along with this one.

Starts at 3:38 in this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dis2PJLvaJc

19 posted on 03/21/2020 3:38:41 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: crz
I used to go to the Pine Mountain Classic-as they call it now, every year. Thats in Iron Mountain MI.

Vinz Clortho, Keymaster of Gozer [Ghostbusters]:

Many Old Mils and Pabsts knew what it was to be chugged in the depths of the Finns and Swedes that day I can tell you."

20 posted on 03/21/2020 3:39:49 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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