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No, YOU lose, Lurker. Since you can't refute my facts, you simply change the topic every time every single one of your points is shot down.

Chicago picks the Senators anyway -- proven NOT TRUE when Illinoisans elected decent non-machine conservatives like Everett Dirksen and Peter Fitzgerald.

Jefferson, Adams, and Madison were smarter -- apparently YOU disagree, since they gave us the ability to AMEND the constitution, which greatly offends YOU. If you're so upset people exercised that option and amended it, why aren't you out demanding the repeal of the 12th amendment so Hillary Clinton can be Vice President instead of Mike Pence? I mean, Jefferson, Adams, and Madison's system for government was soooo superior than the one we CURRENTLY use, right?

The direct election of Senators gave us Feinstein, Durbin, Obama, Murray, Collins, and Graham -- and the appointment of Senators by corrupt state legislatures gave us scores of crooked politicians who BRIBED their way into holding that office for life, thus resulting in national shame, necessitating their removal and the amending of the constitution. It also gave us DOZENS of machine-RAT politicians in "conservative" southern states for DECADES after the civil war, which was considerably WORSE than the six Senators you're so upset about currently. Ask anyone currently living in a country where their "upper house" is chosen by political elites for life and they have no say in the matter. Let me know what their think of their "superior" system. Perhaps you can convince them how "good" things are, if you use the liberal socialist argument that big government knows whats best for us and we should shut up and not question their decisions.

Once again, YOU lose, and your latest "talking point" has once again been shot down.

So what argument are you going to switch to next?

State legislatures choosing Senators was a fiasco, especially once it was realized the Senators were under no legal obligation to vote as the legislatures directed them to. If the 17th were repealed, a large number of states would never have to worry about Republicans contesting them and the remainder could see RINOs teaming up with Demonrats to get rid of every non-RINO in the body.

In fact, individuals such as Feinstein, Durbin, Zero, Osama bin Murray and Graham would be handily elected by the state legislatures. Collins probably would not have because a majority of the ME legislature would elect a Stalinist rodent.