To: Da Coyote
There seems to be a lot of anti Mormon sentiment on Free Republic. I’ve never understood it.
If you want to get into theology, we could all have endless debates in that area. I understand some such as fundamentalist or Evangelical Christians can never endorse Mormon theology, but then they can’t endorse theology of other religions in the first place anyway.
And introducing criticism of Mitt Romney into this, just because many of us disagree with him politically, seems to be a cheap shot at the LDS church. Mitt is not the personification of what people believe is wrong with the Mormon church, is he?
To: Dilbert San Diego
25 posted on
03/18/2020 5:20:28 PM PDT by
Bommer
(I am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
To: Dilbert San Diego; fproy2222; teppe; Normandy
There seems to be a lot of anti Mormon sentiment on Free Republic. Ive never understood it.You should have been around 2011-2012
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Orson Pratt proclaimed:
"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer).
Questions put to Joseph Smith:
"'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
"for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12).
"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly:
"When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses Section 5 page 73);
"The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses Section 8 page 171);
"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses Section 8 page 199);
"Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses Section 10 page 230).
"And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses Section 6 page 24);
Orson Pratt also said:
"This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses , Section 18, page 44);
"But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , Section 18 page 172).
President John Taylor stated:
"Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , Section 6 page 167);
"Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , Section 10 page 127).
James Talmage said:
"A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
President Joseph Fielding Smith said:
"Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266).
"For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear:
"Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265);
"a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.123);
"virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.250);
"Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.290).
President George Q. Cannon said:
"After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324). <-- can't find an onlink link, but there ARE a lot of hard copy books for sale tha tinclude this quote.
President Wilford Woodruff stated:
"the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , Section 2, page 196).
And this attitude is STILL deeply ingrained in the Mormon mind.
63 posted on
03/18/2020 7:47:04 PM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Dilbert San Diego
Mitt is not the personification of what people believe is wrong with the Mormon church, is he?Mitt served on a mission to France.
He knows more about the bible and salvation than you EVER will!!
Timeline... Subject...
0:59 "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16 "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02 "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57 "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."
68 posted on
03/18/2020 7:56:08 PM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Dilbert San Diego; All
Perhaps Romney is not reflective of the average everyday “laity”...but Harry Reid and Mitt Romney...2 peas in a pod. It is not Republican or Democrat for them....it is Mormon Triumphalism. The Mormons play their own games and even the hierarchy really believes this stuff! Mormonsism will rule the world some day and when things fall apart, they believe they will be the ones picking up the pieces! Sound familiar?
I’ll bet at heart, even the Muslims and Mormons would find ways of getting along with each other. In both religions, it’s the women who get the shaft!
To: Dilbert San Diego
There seems to be a lot of anti Mormon sentiment on Free Republic. Ive never understood it. Then how can you contend for anything? And when any church proclaims it is the one true church than it is making itself an object of challenges.
But right now I am going outside (thank God i can) despite the Covid captivity and hysteria virus.
226 posted on
03/24/2020 10:08:34 AM PDT by
daniel1212
( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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