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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Wow .... you have no ability to answer questions about your own religion. Your only weapon is Fake News.

In answer to your question, you ere. There is only one ‘God the Eternal Father’ whom all will worship, even Jesus Christ, for all time and all eternity.


158 posted on 03/23/2020 10:01:50 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe
Your only weapon is Fake News.



  

The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 14

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet to David Whitmer, at Fayette, New York, June 1829. The Whitmer family had become greatly interested in the translating of the Book of Mormon. The Prophet established his residence at the home of Peter Whitmer Sr., where he dwelt until the work of translation was carried to completion and the copyright on the forthcoming book was secured. Three of the Whitmer sons, each having received a testimony as to the genuineness of the work, became deeply concerned over the matter of their individual duty. This revelation and the two following (sections 15 and 16) were given in answer to an inquiry through the Urim and Thummim. David Whitmer later became one of the Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.

Section 15

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet to John Whitmer, at Fayette, New York, June 1829 (see the heading to section 14).
 
 The message is intimately and impressively personal in that the Lord tells of what was known only to John Whitmer and Himself.
 
 John Whitmer later became one of the Eight Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.

1–2, The Lord’s arm is over all the earth; 3–6, To preach the gospel and save souls is the thing of most worth.

 

 Hearken, my servant John, and listen to the words of Jesus Christ, your Lord and your Redeemer.

 For behold, I speak unto you with sharpness and with power, for mine arm is over all the earth.

 And I will tell you that which no man knoweth save me and thee alone

 For many times you have desired of me to know that which would be of the most worth unto you.

 Behold, blessed are you for this thing, and for speaking my words which I have given unto you according to my commandments.

 And now, behold, I say unto you, that the thing which will be of the most worth unto you will be to declare repentance unto this people, that you may bring souls unto me, that you may rest with them in the kingdom of my Father. Amen.  

Section 16

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet to Peter Whitmer Jr., at Fayette, New York, June 1829 (see the heading to section 14).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Peter Whitmer Jr.  later became one of the Eight Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.

1–2, The Lord’s arm is over all the earth; 3–6, To preach the gospel and save souls is the thing of most worth.

 

Hearken, my servant Peter, and listen to the words of Jesus Christ, your Lord and your Redeemer.

 For behold, I speak unto you with sharpness and with power, for mine arm is over all the earth.

 And I will tell you that which no man knoweth save me and thee alone

 For many times you have desired of me to know that which would be of the most worth unto you.

 Behold, blessed are you for this thing, and for speaking my words which I have given unto you according to my commandments.

 And now, behold, I say unto you, that the thing which will be of the most worth unto you will be to declare repentance unto this people, that you may bring souls unto me, that you may rest with them in the kingdom of my Father. Amen.

 

 

 
 
 
And it came to pass that GOD said:
 
"Sorry about the duplicate.  Pete just slipped my mind.
Just forget that 'and thee alone' thing."

172 posted on 03/24/2020 5:37:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
The doubts involved with leaving one place of presumed safety and going to another; though unknown one; are great.

But; there WILL come a time when one must either step into the water or not.


Joshua 3


 

On the first Sunday service of every month, the faithful are invited to “bear testimonies”—share their convictions—from the pulpit. Some smile cheerfully and say “Good morning, brothers and sisters”; others, overcome with spiritual emotion, start sobbing before they so much as adjust the mic. What typically follows in either case is a series of knowledge claims, for example: “I’d like to bear my testimony. I know this church is true. I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet. I know that Gordon B. Hinckley”—the prophet for most of my youth—“is a prophet today.” The testimony-bearers always conclude with “In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.” The congregation always echoes: “Amen.”

My family attended church almost unfailingly, so I was very familiar with this ritual as a kid. Over time I noticed that testimony-bearers tended to use the same cadence and intonation when they spoke. The words “I’d like to bear my testimony; I know this church is true,” which were always said in a particular way, seemed to be wearing a deep groove into my brain. I wasn’t very old before I came to dislike testimony meetings. I couldn’t bear to see adults cry in front of other adults. One especially excruciating testimony stands out in my memory: an old woman tearfully described how she had prayed for relief for the puss-filled spider bite on her cheek. Thankfully, the swelling went down—evidence, she thought, of God’s concern for her.

Sometimes when the weepy ones started, I would rest my forehead on the pew in front of me and wait for them to finish unbosoming. My mom would tap me on the shoulder and tell me to sit up straight. I might have silently prayed for God to hurry one or two of them along. The “testimonies” of the young children, the smallest of whom could barely speak, disturbed me more. Sometimes kids would go to the pulpit themselves. In other cases, parents carried them to the pulpit, held them up to the microphone and whispered words in their ears, which they repeated: “I’d like to bear my testimony; I know this church is true” in that same cadence. This was common though the church leadership officially frowned on it. The congregation seemed to find it adorable. But did they, or anyone, believe that young children were in a position to testify to us?

https://quillette.com/2019/05/13/bearing-witness-my-story-out-of-mormonism/

173 posted on 03/24/2020 5:56:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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