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New York state coronavirus cases soar to about 1,700, hospitalizing 19%
cnbc ^ | MAR 17 2020 | Berkeley Lovelac e Jr. Noah Higgins-Dunn

Posted on 03/17/2020 8:06:56 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

New York officials say the state’s coronavirus total has jumped to 1,700, with at least 19% hospitalized. They said the number of cases will continue to rise as the state receives more test results. New York has 53,000 hospital beds and 3,000 ICU beds, far short of what state health officials are predicting will be needed, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said.

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To: Elsie

Each ship has 1000 beds. The problem is that each bed is close to the other. They were designed for war casualties, not a pandemic where there must be a distance between patients. The Navy will make adjustments to solve that problem. They’ll probably turn into 300 bed hospital ships.


201 posted on 03/18/2020 7:45:35 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Elsie

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiT8oeWoqToAhVPnJ4KHQoAChAQFjADegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUSNS_Comfort_(T-AH-20)&usg=AOvVaw2wozjLvEyac8vbKRpHxd0c


202 posted on 03/18/2020 7:47:36 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Mafia is a term from Italy. Never called that in the US. They’re a ‘shadow government ‘. Not much different to the swamp only more fair. Yes. The Cosa Nostra are replete with thugs. They don’t hold a candle to the government thugs


203 posted on 03/18/2020 8:25:05 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Worse, 90% are already occupied.


204 posted on 03/18/2020 8:26:31 AM PDT by narses (Censeo praedatorium gregem esse delendum. (The gay lobby must be destroyed))
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To: walkingdead

Where are all the stories about all the people who are recovering just fine?
This massive overreaction is going to doom us all!


New York, US
Confirmed: 1,717
Deaths: 16
Recovered: 0
Active: 1,701

It’s too early in the trajectory. China still has large numbers of unrecovered, and they are still dying even without new cases.


205 posted on 03/18/2020 8:27:41 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: LeonardFMason; RomanSoldier19

“53,000 Beds. Not 3000.”

3000 ICU beds 90% occupied. ICUs have the respirators that save the lives of the really sick.


206 posted on 03/18/2020 8:28:35 AM PDT by narses (Censeo praedatorium gregem esse delendum. (The gay lobby must be destroyed))
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To: MinorityRepublican

High % of hospitalization? Whats up with that?


It’s always been high. That’s been the primary issue causing countries to freak out when hit hard. That said, it is probably a little higher because the severely sick are the ones going to the hospital more promptly.


207 posted on 03/18/2020 8:38:42 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: 9YearLurker; Elsie

Did the testers in South Korea change hazmat suits after every test?


208 posted on 03/18/2020 9:15:46 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Freee-dame

They didn’t use this test. Listening to the press conference now, it sounds like they may be moving to a self-swab test, which would be great.


209 posted on 03/18/2020 9:17:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: narses

How many of these ICU beds are occupied by traditional flu cases already? Not to mention Heart Attacks, Strokes, and other emergencies.

It’s not like they had 3000 beds waiting for COVID-19.

Fredo’s brother better start work on plan to increase ICU type facilities NOW. Sounds like it may be too late.


210 posted on 03/18/2020 9:18:32 AM PDT by LeonardFMason (Lou Dobbs)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

No one is saying it’s “just the flu” bro.


Oh. There’s been a bunch of them.

That the flu is killing more people does in fact have a meaning, but not the meaning many of them are implying. Most of the meaning there is simply that the flu has a much, much larger head start in hosts, and it gives a good idea how widespread it would be if we ignored it the same way we have done with the flu. Useful information for sure, but not so clearly comparable in determining what exactly the extent of vigilance should be.

I think we are over-reacting to some probably very significant extent, however, we don’t know the exact optimum response level, and people aren’t both responding and segregating where the problems actually are. We also had the majority of people ignoring the issue while small steps might have been sufficient and are freaking out because their reality has been pierced by hearing every consequence at once.


211 posted on 03/18/2020 9:21:56 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Vaquero

I understand. I’m not 15 years old.


212 posted on 03/18/2020 9:23:37 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Skywise

Get factories in the ball to start cranking out ventilators.


There was a whole todo about that a few days ago when the federal government announced it had made arrangements, but also advised the states to get them more directly if they can do that faster. At least some states took that to mean the federal government wasn’t going to provide them with any, instead of taking it as a statement that they weren’t going to get hung up on bureaucracy.


213 posted on 03/18/2020 9:25:24 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Many of those hospitalized, now, may recover and be discharged in some amount of time.


Unfortunately, the recovery times cited is 5 days to 41 days after symptoms appear. China is only reporting a handful of new cases the last three weeks, but the deaths are still coming. They still report over 8,000 still sick. Ugh.


214 posted on 03/18/2020 9:30:29 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“Oh. There’s been a bunch of them.”

I’m not seeing that. What I’m seeing is that posters are pointing out that deaths from the flu far outpace this virus EVERY YEAR and no one bats an eyelash. We’re hearing things about “potential” without much reason to accept the worst case scenario about Covid-19. Even on the cooped up cruise ship there was nothing close to full infection or super high mortality.


215 posted on 03/18/2020 9:31:04 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: CaptainK

Somebody posted that 65 are in IC which means that of the 19% that are hospitalize (323) 3.8% (65) are in IC.


Or stated as “of the 19% hospitalized, 1/5th of them are in ICU”.

Actually, that’s slightly better so far than the early reports of 20% being serious and 5% of the whole needing ICU. The difference though is 15 people.


216 posted on 03/18/2020 9:44:07 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: LeonardFMason

NY and FedGov are doing just that. Hospital ships and MASH units being activated, ThermoFisher is moving 24 hours a day to manufacture more ICU equipment. Pray for them and for us all.


217 posted on 03/18/2020 9:47:56 AM PDT by narses (Censeo praedatorium gregem esse delendum. (The gay lobby must be destroyed))
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To: laplata

I wish I was


218 posted on 03/18/2020 9:54:23 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Technically, a Coronavirus is in fact the cause of many cases of the common cold.


It is - most of the 20% not caused by rhinoviruses. MERS and SARS are also coronaviruses.

This one is more similar to the MERS and SARS viruses, but less fatal per case (MERS 30-35%, SARS 10-12%. FWIW, China’s numbers are currently in the 4.0-4.5% range) and much more infectious.

Here are the fatality rate by age percentages the CDC had in a chart from February, multiplied by the number of people in those age brackets in 2010. If anyone finds more up-to-date numbers they’d be appreciated. The numbers infected are an approximation if we treated this like the flu and took no other precautions (and had a vaccine).

If the infection totals were like this years estimate of the flu:
320,000,000
*10% infection rate
32,000,000

Age count CDC chart .. .. Dead
20s 37.3M *0.1% ... ... 3,500
30s 43.2M *0.2% ... ... 9,000
40s 42.5M *0.4% ... ..17,000
50s 31.1M *1.3% ... .. 40,000
60s 20.3M *3.6% ... .. 73,000
70s 16.3M *8.0% .. ...130,000
80+ 9.2M *14 % .. ....128,000
... ... ... ... ... .. 404,000

As you can see, the shift in fatalities towards the elderly is not as strong as is implied. And for working age folk in their 60s is about 60% in numbers from those in their 80s.


219 posted on 03/18/2020 9:59:48 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

I still interpret that as states shouldn’t wait for the federal governments ventilators to arrive if they need them now but should source their own if they can get it until the fed supply chain is setup.


220 posted on 03/18/2020 10:02:40 AM PDT by Skywise
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