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The science of soap – here’s how it kills the coronavirus
theguardian.com ^ | 3/12/2020 | Pall Thordarson

Posted on 03/16/2020 12:16:48 PM PDT by bitt

Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin

iruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days. Disinfectants, liquids, wipes, gels and creams containing alcohol are all useful at getting rid of them – but they are not quite as good as normal soap.

With Italy in lockdown, fear over coronavirus is natural but we must not be alarmist Gaby Hinsliff Gaby Hinsliff Read more When I shared the information above using Twitter, it went viral. I think I have worked out why. Health authorities have been giving us two messages: once you have the virus there are no drugs that can kill it or help you get rid of it. But also, wash your hands to stop the virus spreading. This seems odd. You can’t, even for a million dollars, get a drug for the coronavirus – but your grandmother’s bar of soap kills the virus.

So why does soap work so well on the Sars-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses? The short story: because the virus is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer. Soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies – or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive.

The slightly longer story is that most viruses consist of three key building blocks: ribonucleic acid (RNA), proteins and lipids. A virus-infected cell makes lots of these building blocks, which then spontaneously self-assemble to form the virus. Critically, there are no strong covalent bonds holding these units together, which means you do not necessarily need harsh chemicals to split those units apart. When an infected cell dies, all these new

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To: bitt

Is water temperature important?


41 posted on 03/16/2020 1:36:13 PM PDT by Rio
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

“You could just eat cilantro. It tastes like soap.”

You need a serious talk with your cook.


42 posted on 03/16/2020 1:40:13 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

https://delishably.com/spices-seasonings/Why-Does-Cilantro-Taste-Bad


43 posted on 03/16/2020 1:45:19 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: bitt
I always enjoy reading The Guardian paywall garbage notification. Surely makes me want to contribute to their worthy cause. /sarcasm

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44 posted on 03/16/2020 1:46:45 PM PDT by JayNorth (The Democrats have proven themselves to be pure evil.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

“. The more Dr. Jay ate cilantro, the more he began to like it. He now enjoys it because his brain associates cilantro with good food and the fun time he experiences when eating with friends and family.”

ymmmm ...


45 posted on 03/16/2020 1:48:47 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: DAC21
"OK, good to know but is there a common ingredient in soap that causes this breakdown of the virus?"

ANY soap/detergent molecule has two "sections". One end is strongly ionic, the other end is not. The ionic end bonds strongly to water molecules, the non-ionic end to the lipid (fat) wall of the virus. The viral lipid "wall" or "capsule" is literally ripped apart.

That special molecular structure is what makes "soap" soap.

46 posted on 03/16/2020 2:00:25 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Flaming Conservative
I was in my early teens in the early 80s when the first extended wear soft contact lenses came out. I was involved in several sports and they made a huge improvement over wearing glasses.

I still remember the first appointment at the eye doctor's office when the staff showed me how to put them in. They made a huge point about always using Dial soap to wash my hands before handling the lenses, not just because of its antiseptic properties, but also because it didn't have any added oils, fragrance, moisturizers, etc. I've been an advocate of Dial ever since!

47 posted on 03/16/2020 2:02:27 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Brookhaven
I read that the 70% alcohol is more effective at killing germs than the 91%.

Just a guess on my part but likely the 91% is so volatile that it evaporates before the job is finished.


48 posted on 03/16/2020 2:16:17 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: lgjhn23
Dawn dish detergent dissolves fat/grease and probably works pretty good as a hand soap for this, but it will dry your hands out quickly.

I have been mixing Dawn with water and alcohol for years as hand soap. Cheap, thank God, and foaming dispensers were cheap on Ebay. Does not dry out my hands, though waterless hand cleaner can.

49 posted on 03/16/2020 2:18:05 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: forgotten man

I trained at a home health agency that provided nurses with individual kits of a paper thin slice of soap wrapped in 2 paper towels. We were trained never to use a patient’s bar of soap,because their soap, sitting in goop, CAN actually harbor the patient’s and his family’s germs, that we’re not accustomed to.


50 posted on 03/16/2020 2:19:15 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: TexasGator; Lurkina.n.Learnin

“You could just eat cilantro. It tastes like soap.”
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It’s not the cook who did anything incorrect, TexasGator.

There’s about 10% of humans for whom Cilantro does indeed taste something akin to soap. It’s in the genes, funnily enough. LOL

I cannot tolerate Cilantro in any cooking, at all.

In fact, I’ve described Cilantro as, “lettuce that someone has eaten, thrown up and served to unsuspecting customers, like myself.”

Yes, Cilantro does indeed taste that badly. Where I eat, the servers know that if there’s any, and I do mean ANY Cilantro on my food or plate I will cut up/destroy the food and send it back for new food.

It is that bad for my taste buds.


51 posted on 03/16/2020 2:21:08 PM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet.)
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To: lastchance

We were taught that, too, but it wasn’t enforced. Nurses with long fake painted nails are, IMHO, either not too bright, or just don’t care if they expose themselves or patients to who knows what.


52 posted on 03/16/2020 2:24:01 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Thank you, Lurkina.n.Learnin, for the link!

I didn’t realize it was up to 20% of the population that couldn’t tolerate Cilantro.

Never had it as a child/teen/young adult. Never. When I came to Texas I was in for a shock. So many foods I would get sick from, if I could even get the food inside my body.

Got so tired of folks looking at me sideways. Was thrilled when I discovered Cilantro did a number on other taste buds as well! Mmm... that didn’t sound nice. You know what I meant. LOL

I’ve had Asian food growing up and did not have Cilantro in it until I came to Texas. It’s like everyone was in love with that weed.


53 posted on 03/16/2020 2:25:43 PM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“Dial soap”
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Dial Foam is what is kept in stock in my bathroom. Even before this CO-VID19 hit, I wash my hands so much more than the average person. Not OCD about it, thankfully, just a bit more cautious because I have two furbabies. LOL

I’d love to get my beloved husband off of the Irish Spring. Told him it’s the fact that it’s terrible to clean off the shower that I hate!

Dawn is the preference in the kitchen for dishes and yes, in an extreme pinch, the Laundry Room.


54 posted on 03/16/2020 2:36:17 PM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

My mother was not a nurse but she was a medical secretary from the old school. How old school? She drummed into me that only nurses were allowed to wear white hose or stockings.


55 posted on 03/16/2020 2:44:58 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: TexasGator

“You could just eat cilantro. It tastes like soap.”

You need a serious talk with your cook.

LOL.


56 posted on 03/16/2020 2:45:46 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: lastchance

:)


57 posted on 03/16/2020 2:46:43 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Aloe Vera extract, glycerin, coconut fats add a skin soothing component to a straight alcohol sterilant hand wash.

A laundry detergent that tackles protein stains combined with an acid (suggested jokingly as Tide & Orange Juice) is reportedly an effective and somewhat persistent virus killer on surfaces.


58 posted on 03/16/2020 3:25:40 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: lastchance

I had a large cow butchered some years back and ended up with a whole lot of fat. I made a lot of some very strong soap with it. Sodium tallowate. I think I had 25 - 30#s of the stuff. Used it for laundry, too harsh for the hands.


59 posted on 03/16/2020 3:27:37 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Became a faithful 20 second soap-and-water guy after seeing this proven on Mythbusters years ago.”

Became a faithful close-lid-before-flushing gal after seeing this on Mythbusters years ago.


60 posted on 03/16/2020 3:31:04 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" - Corrie ten Boom)
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