Gov. Newsom calls for all California seniors to self-isolate, all bars to close

KABC ^ | 3/15/2020 | By ABC7.com staff

[rb22982]

Short term impact? 1) hahah you dont' understand how the system works apparently. This will likely make 08-09 look like a walk in the park at this rate. Businesses CANNOT handle a 50-100% drop in revenue for any length of time. It was down on average about 5-10% in 08-09 for a comparison for most industries.
2) What happens when you re-open for business? This thing will return almost immediately with global trade. So if you don't fully re-open you are talking about tens of millions of jobs - GONE, an insane amount of bankruptcies, nearly every US bank detonating, etc.

And you are missing the point. The rate for people under 65 is NO DIFFERENT than the flu. 65+ should isolate, avoid hugs/kisses, wipe things down, etc. Encourage people to work from home. That's all you need to do to bend the curve.

[crz]

LOL!

Yet they are trying to shut down everything else.

Yet truckers haul across the country and visit towns all across this country. It will spread this thing out EVEN THOUGH they shut down everything else.

That is how GD stupid and out of control this hysteria has become.

You are right. They shut them down and it will be something to behold. Should have put the sarcasm tag on that post.

I would imagine you are thinking. WTF is your solution? Schools, Old Folks homes, and a few other things. Let them shut them down for a while. The virus is out, and it is a good bet out of control.

[Jane Long]

There goes SanFranNan’s lifestyle.

[Grampa Dave]

So will I now be IDed at age 81 if I go shopping for food and whatever?

[Kakaze]

This is flat out horse shit.
We will not be safer.
It’s a experiment in population control

[Kaslin]

My husband will be 83 next month. Thank God he doesn’t go to bars anymore

[glasseye]

“What about pot houses?”
Don’t Bogart that joint my....oh, wait, nevermind.

[Mastador1]

Dear Gavin Noisome, I call on you to KMA!

[Mastador1]

I not a conspiracy nut but I do believe that California socialists soiled themselves while experiencing uncontrolled joy at the opportunity to further bankrupt private enterprises and control the population.

[Fiji Hill]

We are going to have a global depression (not recession) in the next two months if this keeps up much longer. How many restaurants, hotels, airlines, retail stores, etc can withstand a 50-100% drop in revenue for a few months? Hint: Not many. And you are talking 10+ million of jobs, and that’s not counting the domino effects (those losing their jobs stop spending, default on debt, stocks collapse to lower than 2009 etc)

The threat of a catastrophic depression brought on by all this media-driven hysteria scares me far more than does the virus.

[rb22982]

Same, which will cause far more deaths globally than COVID19 would even if left completely unchecked. There are so many things that bend the curve that are FREE we should do first.

1) STOP allowing visitors to nursing homes and hospitals, period
2) Elderly should self-isolate as much as possible, as well as those who care for elderly
3) Encourage people to not shake hands
4) Encourage people not to visit grandma and grandpa for a few months
5) Encourage employers to allow working remote for a couple months.

NONE of these things cost anything to GDP and bend the curve massively. We may be looking at an economic drop similar to the first wave of the great depression if this keeps up much longer.

Worse, because we won't have herd immunity, this will KEEP COMING BACK until we do.

[hal ogen]

You are wrong . I feel great concern for the employees who don’t have a large margin of 5 in their economic situation . I feel concern for freedom. You have no “heart” about those apparently . Everyone is free to stay locked into their house as long as they want. Apparently , you need to study the Constitution and the Bill of Rights . Read history of the sacrifices for freedom. You can do this in the safety of your home. You are frightened. You are weak. Have a great day.

[Mark]

Kalifornia is just full of Republican representatives!(fer sure)

[Verginius Rufus]

It sounds like Newsom is the homophobe. Won't closing the bars have a disproportionate impact on homosexual men?

But closing bars will also have a disproportionate impact on dipsomaniacs. So he is also a dipsophobe.

[Persevero]

“Should be closed?”

Is that an opinion? Preference? Request? Or order?

Is someone enforcing this?

[DannyTN]

About laws regulations quarantine isolation

You can file a lawsuit saying your constitutional rights have been violated. But there is both precedent and valid legal arguments against you.

Testing, tracking, and quarantining is the best way to limit the spread and quickly restore consumer confidence.

So yes, I do have a heart for employees and business owners. Letting this spread uncontained is going to be worse for them, as consumer fear will grow. They might continue to have business for a couple of weeks, but when the real impact of this occurs, and the hospitals are overwhelmed, those employees and businesses will be hit much harder than if we try to contain this.

The prudent see trouble and seek refuge. The simple continue and pay the penalty. - Proverbs

[Persevero]

Ahhh, it’s “guidance.”

Fine then I guess.

I am not sure how many marginally employed restaurant workers would like to go bankrupt for a virus that has killed 6 in this state.

Yes, I know it will be more and that is important. Needlessly destroying livelihoods is also important.

[Let_It_Be_So]

Respectfully, will you describe this “hot mess” and how it differs from how this country dealt with the 2009 H1N1 situation?

[eartick]

And that goes double for senior bars

[Equine1952]

You can’t shut off interstate commerce. Trucks have to roll. If you’re over 60 be careful. Shut down trucks for 3 days and reap the whirlwind. If the government wants to prove my theory close interstate traffic.