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Medical marijuana bills challenge Bible Belt politics
Associated Press ^ | March 14, 2020 | Bruce Schreiner

Posted on 03/14/2020 10:39:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Facing a potentially historic vote on whether to legalize medical marijuana in Kentucky, Republican lawmaker John Schickel is conflicted.

A retired law enforcement officer, Schickel once steadfastly opposed medical cannabis, but his stance has softened. Now he says he’s approaching the question with an open mind. […]

Schickel’s dilemma stands as yet another sign that views about marijuana are changing across the South, where efforts to legalize it have long been stymied by Bible Belt politics. While medical cannabis is legal now in 33 states, including Arkansas, Louisiana and Florida, other Southern states remain among the holdouts.

Whether wavering resistance will lead to legalization remains unclear. After years of setbacks, the Kentucky bill’s supporters cleared a historic hurdle when the House passed the measure. The Senate appears more skeptical.

Lawmakers in other Southern states are also cautiously eyeing changes, though there’s reason for hope among advocates. …

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: 0keywordwarriors; alabama; biblebelt; cannabis; kentucky; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; mississippi; pot; reefermadness; rinos; slipperyslope; slipperyslopetosane; wod

1 posted on 03/14/2020 10:39:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; KC_Lion
Opposition has come from socially conservative lawmakers who warn that legalizing medical cannabis would push Kentucky off a slippery slope leading to recreational use of the drug.

I guess we'd better ban every medicine we don't want used recreationally - painkillers, just for starters.

Morons.

2 posted on 03/14/2020 11:52:28 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Olog-hai

Tobacco smokers have more severe effects from corona virus.

Let’s see if toking “medicinal” marijuana also has additional coronavirus complications.

Trudope and wife will be a good test. They are dopers, as is Margaret Trudeau.


3 posted on 03/14/2020 12:09:56 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (TAX the WOKE !)
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To: Reverend Wright
Let’s see if toking “medicinal” marijuana also has additional coronavirus complications.

Many medicines have negative side effects - should we ban them all?

4 posted on 03/14/2020 12:16:03 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Olog-hai

” lawmakers who warn that legalizing medical cannabis would push Kentucky off a slippery slope leading to recreational use of the drug”.

That is not a slippery slope, it’s a CERTAINTY!
Look at other states, so may as well just skip the intermediate pretense and go strait to “Recreational” dope.

For the record, legalizing dope does NOT reduce crime or significantly reduce illicit dope sales.


5 posted on 03/14/2020 12:27:21 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Ex gun maker.
Look at other states

Yes, let's ... 21 states legalize medical but not recreational marijuana.

For the record, legalizing dope does NOT reduce crime or significantly reduce illicit dope sales.

Link? Seems to me that every dollar spent in a legal shop is a dollar not spent with criminals - and that most if not all of the marijuana illegally grown in legalizing states is for sale in non-legalizing states, so probably just a change in origin rather than an increase.

6 posted on 03/14/2020 1:30:35 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Price elasticity of illegal versus legal cannabis: a behavioral economic substitutability analysis.
Amlung M et al. Addiction. 2019 Jan;114(1):112-118. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30194789
“CONCLUSIONS: Cannabis users treat legal cannabis as a superior commodity compared with illegal cannabis and exhibit asymmetric substitutability favoring legal product.”


7 posted on 03/14/2020 1:40:36 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Ex gun maker.
Meant to post #7 to you.
8 posted on 03/14/2020 1:42:23 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Going by the experiance of my state, Nevada.
When the Gov. Org. taxes and regulates dope it gets even more expensive, so the illegal dope still thrives.
Including for local consumption.
The Hemp growers have to guard their “0” THC crops so that the genius dopers do not steal them.

“Yes, let’s ... 21 states legalize medical but not recreational marijuana”.
For now, but the “Recreational” dope is still a cartainty in the next too few years.
Watch for out of state pushers to buy off the legislatures, via “Initiative” $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ if necessary.

I have seen ZERO benifit to legal dope, but a great increase in the number of lazy dopers/casual thieves/gimme-’dat’s.
D’s now control our formerlyu very conservative state.


9 posted on 03/14/2020 1:50:08 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Ex gun maker.
Going by the experiance of my state, Nevada. When the Gov. Org. taxes and regulates dope it gets even more expensive, so the illegal dope still thrives.

"Number of illegal cultivation sites plummet in Nevada after marijuana legalization" - https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/467786-number-of-illegal-cultivation-sites-plummet-in-nevada-after-marijuana

Yes, let’s ... 21 states legalize medical but not recreational marijuana.

For now, but the “Recreational” dope is still a cartainty in the next too few years.

In your opinion.

Watch for out of state pushers to buy off the legislatures, via “Initiative” $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ if necessary.

Legislators get bought off with voter initiative money? How does that work exactly?

10 posted on 03/14/2020 1:59:39 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

“”Number of illegal cultivation sites plummet in Nevada after marijuana legalization”
Yah, ‘cause illegal is SO easy to keep tabs on.
Now that the dope growers can be chgarged with TAX EVASION for their illegal dope they are a bit more careful.
And of course anyone fifty miles from a legal dope outlet may legally grow more than they can consume.
If it were truly “Legal” all the dopers would be allowedd to just grow their own, but Gov. Org. is now happy to become pushers for the tax revenue.

“Legislators get bought off with voter initiative money? How does that work exactly?”

Pretty simple actually.
If the legislature has too much sense to do the dope lobbies bidding immediately the out of state pushers and their greasy palm supporters go to a “Referendum”.
The legislators ignore the normal state restrictions on “Initiative” language”* and manner of signature gathering after they get a nice “Campaign contribution”.
They pretend the dope lobby is popularly supported, as evidenced by the out of state organized signature gathering efforts.
Once the required “Referendum” has been paid for and “Passed” they make no more than a token effort to retain sanity.
Of course they immediately, gleefully, begin spending more in “Projected revenue” than will ever be realized in new dope taxes.

Too many of our politicians are such vermin they would support legal kiddy porn if they became convinced it would give them more power/tax revenue to buy votes with.

The efforts for national legal dope continue.

* Such as the Single Subject rule for one example, also pretending there is no Fiscal Impact to be addressed, for another.


11 posted on 03/14/2020 2:53:54 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Ex gun maker.
"Number of illegal cultivation sites plummet in Nevada after marijuana legalization" - https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/467786-number-of-illegal-cultivation-sites-plummet-in-nevada-after-marijuana

Yah, ‘cause illegal is SO easy to keep tabs on.

If not, you have no basis for your claim "illegal dope still thrives." What is indisputable is that every dollar spent in a legal shop is a dollar not spent with criminals.

Now that the dope growers can be chgarged with TAX EVASION for their illegal dope they are a bit more careful.

Whereas before they could merely be charged with a CRIMINAL FELONY and IMPRISONED?

LMAO!

The legislators ignore the normal state restrictions on “Initiative” language”* [Such as the Single Subject rule for one example, also pretending there is no Fiscal Impact to be addressed, for another] and manner of signature gathering

You have evidence that this has occurred?

12 posted on 03/14/2020 3:09:35 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

(Sigh) The state seems to CARE more about missing out on THEIR tax revenue than they have about “Fed. Felony” dope use in many years.
The bigger the operation the more they care.
They still make at least token efforts to arrest the bigger dealers.

I’m in a rural farming community, sad how many dopers feel no need to make any real effort real to hide their illegal activity.
Being small time dealers/growers local LE seems to have no interest in them either.
The attitude from dopers and LE alike seems to be “Well, it’s legal per state law, so no one really cares.”
I recently had to quit a job for my own safety, not going to work around heavy equipment and stoned operators!

As to the manipulations of the “Initiative” process, that is pretty easy to see.
Look at the campaing finance reports, read the inititiatgive language, look at the selectively enforced restrictions, watch the AG and legislators ignore the blatant disregard for those restrictions, see the signature gatherers and their lying in action.
I’m at the state legislature evey session, I have more seniority there than any of the legiscritters!
So yes, I have observed exactly how corrupt our initiative process has become.

Funny, the licensing for Hemp is still seriously enforced.


13 posted on 03/14/2020 4:03:29 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Ex gun maker.
Look at

If you want to convince anyone but yourself, you'll show us those things rather than assigning it to us as our homework.

If.

14 posted on 03/14/2020 4:12:37 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

No need to convince anyone, I already witnessed it.

Doubt enough folk really care or it would not have been allowed to happen.
MJ is not the only instance, the chicanery will be repeated.

Agree to disagree if we must, I’m getting away from this site for a while.
Been trapped here by wind today, not virus, going into town.


15 posted on 03/14/2020 4:52:43 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Ex gun maker.
No need to convince anyone

You got it - I'm not convinced.

16 posted on 03/14/2020 5:00:16 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve thought about using CBD for anxiety but never tried it. Definitely overwhelming to see all the brands and types.


17 posted on 04/12/2020 7:10:35 AM PDT by juanrossi
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve thought about using CBD for anxiety but never tried it. Definitely overwhelming to see all the brands and types.


18 posted on 04/12/2020 7:10:35 AM PDT by juanrossi
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